Nighttime leg cramps,,,,,
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Topic: Nighttime leg cramps,,,,,
Posted By: desertjoe
Subject: Nighttime leg cramps,,,,,
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 8:02am
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The last year or so,,I have been bothered with really BAD leg cramping /spasms at night and begining to concern me some,, I had one early this mornin and had to roll out of bed and start to massage the large inner thigh muscle on my right leg as it was drawn up tighter than chit and was extremely painful. I keep an electric massager by the recliner but could not walk to it because of the pain in even moving my leg. Finally reached the phone and fixin to call 911 for some help is how bad it was. After bout 15 minutes of hand massage,,the muscle calmed down to where I could hobble to the recliner to reach the massager. The wife's Dr had given her some cyclobenzaprene for her nighttime leg cramps and thinkin on tryin some but,,,??? \Anybody else got these issues and what/how do ya'll address them,,,??? Help,,,!!!
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Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 8:13am
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Cold damp towel helps some, taking some cal/mag with D or zinc may help too... ------------- He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 8:59am
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Mom used to get em when sleepin, and slug of store bought kosher dill pickle juice or a pickled would do it for her. I've since gotten her on a multi vitamin daily and it has gone away for her. Moms 85.
I'm figuring potassium, magnesium, zinc, and maybe other isiums like vitamin C. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 12:17pm
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I had trouble with leg cramps about 10 years ago. I could get it to go away taking a potassuim pill. Then the insurance company trumped what the doctor said and changed my blood pressure meds. New meds said not to take potassium or bad things would happen. But it seem the blood pressure medicine must have been part of the trouble, cause they just about stopped real soon after the change. But as I had less my Wonderful has been getting more. She has had help from some little pills you let melt under your tougue. Taking the potassium I did, doesn't help here. She orders them on line,an the bottle just says LEG CRAMP. They have helped me with the time or I have had a bad one in the last year or two.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 12:39pm
| https://www.sblogics.com/pdfs/whitepapers/HEE710.pdf" rel="nofollow - https://www.sblogics.com/pdfs/whitepapers/HEE710.pdf Works wonders! |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 2:04pm
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1/2 glass tomato juice, 1/4 glass orange juice, 4-5 swigs of lemon juices, few pinches of salt OK, maybe not the best tasting concoction but it does eliminae sinues, migraines and leg cramps.. at least for me... I'll lay odds your 'electrolyte' levels are screwy( need more of some/all ). Drinking JUST water is BAD...though it'll 'hydrate' you, it acrually LOWERS your electroytes ! Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 2:10pm
| Drink more water |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 2:28pm
Normally, a person's diet takes in more than enough electrolytes (salts) and minerals, and water is natures way of balancing that out to where it should be. Lowering the electrolytes is what it is SUPPOSED to do. It's how the Big Guy designed us. Modern food, is stripped of so many minerals and micronutrients from over processing, that mineral supplements are sometimes needed, or, as you do, make a special concoction addressing the issue. Generally speaking, drinking "just water" is the best thing you can drink.
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jaybmiller wrote:Posted By: weiner
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 3:09pm
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I agree, drink a lot more water. I read that a lot of cramps are due to muscle dehydration and drinking more water does help me. ------------- Real heros wear dogtags, not capes. |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 3:15pm
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Joe I’ve been having the same. I’m at the dr. As we speak getting exrays of my knees and back trying to figure what to do about the swelling and pain. Once I decided to go to a Dr. seems like they sure want to find something wrong. Between Dentist and Dr this is my 4th visit this week. That’s more than my whole previous life. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 3:24pm
It all depends on the root cause of the cramps.......But in general, water is fantastic for you and most people don't get enough. I know I certainly don't. It's great that it works for you. As much as Doc's like to find things wrong if you pay them a visit, sometimes you just have to. Try a few of the remedies and suggestions of friends, and if nothing is working, work with a doc to try and find a root cause. Brother in law's dad says to eat a spoonful of mustard. Plain! I said, "Holy chit! I think I'd rather have a cramp!!!"
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Posted By: tomNE
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 5:05pm
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i had them real bad; used all the above fixes and then another 50. they didn't help a damn bit! I finally found to give up diet soda and substitute powerade zero. still working today. i know cause i get stupid and load up on diet pop and suffer. doesn't take long to remind myself. buddy of mine had it even worse then i did. he alternates between powerade and gatorade. ------------- AC from the start of my families farming career till the end! |
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 5:12pm
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An old friend of ours used quinine in water and drink it when needed. Said it worked great. Leon |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 6:14pm
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Yes lot's of water is good BUT it has to be balanced with replacement electroytes. Gatorade does that AND a LOT of sugar ( check their website for the numbers). My concoction is a 'poor man's gatorade' WITHOUT the huge amount of sugar. While it may not taste great it's helped me since my heat stroke of 2014.... Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 7:13pm
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I drink 10 oz of orange juice every morning..... never had much of a problem. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 7:19pm
| The WORST leg cramps I encounter are on top of my shins ?? How can there be any muscle mass on top of a shin to get a cramp?? |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 21 Aug 2019 at 7:42pm
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I get them in my right hand, between the base of th 'pinky' and the wrist. Cramps in a good(?) 1/4". Looks real bad, peopple wince when they see it ask 'don't it hurt' ? I just say ..oh great, that again... gues I'm used to the pain.. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 12:52am
| Jay...your concocksion sounds a whole lot tastier than the one ole Joe wanted me to drank down! lol. Joe...I agree with most all above, I keep mine at bay with a potassium pill each day. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 5:47am
If it works for you, great. You aren’t hurting yourself. If you need it because of heat stroke, so be it, glad you’re handling it. The point is, the VAST MAJORITY of people do not need something like Gatorade to get enough of the electrolytes. Extreme exertion for extended periods, like high level sports, maybe lumberjacking in July, then sure. |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 5:51am
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Shameless,,,,,,,,,you just gonna have to STOP insistin on drinkin thet ACV straight,,,!! Chit,,I'd much sooner drink some tequila straight that try the ACV straight,,,wow,,!! The recipe I first started usin was to use the ACV with some organic Agave necter but one time I went to Walmart,,they were out so I substituted some Grandma's Molassis,,and that is what I use now. This concocktion is very "refreshing" with the lemon slices on a hot day,,,I Love it,,,  Anyway,,,I almost had another leg cramp earlier,,thing is,,I can sense it startin right before it goes hog wild and I think I am agravating it by tensing up my legs and trying to stretch out too much right before it starts. I'ma gonna look into thet stuff ole TBone had the link to. I really should go see the sawbones to do some bloodwork to see what the potassium level is as WebMd also sayin like most guys here are sayin,,of low potassium levels. I got to do something,,I'm worried one of them sobs is gonna catch me good and I sure don't look forward to the outcomes,,, I dang near called 911 the other night,,is how bad that one was,,,,,
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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 7:33am
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That reminds me, one evening BIL cramped up both calves & thighs tight as a banjo and he was is terrible pain. Lil sis took him to emergency after an hour and it turned out his liver was falling down on the job. He had contracted Hep C earlier in life and it was starting to take its toll. They slowly got him straightened around, they've got Hep C cures now ifin your not to far gone. Not sayin you got Hep C, but seeing the man again is probably a good idea. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 7:40am
| Old gal had them BAD for years. She found out she was very low on magnesium. A trip to squallmart she picked up a bottle of 400mg, takes 2 a day. It took about a week for them to stop. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 7:52am
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Hope you find relief Joe, whatever the cause. That stuff I linked, will chase away a cramp, and keep it at bay if you take it when you get that “here it comes” feeling. Won’t address the root cause. |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 8:57am
| You can pick up leg cramps at Walmart the PM ones dissolve under your tounge the day times new to take with water. Also drink more water your muscles are dehydrating causing the cramps. But you've got to drink the more water a day before getting cramps for it to work. You should be drinking enough so you regularly pee clear. If any yellow tint drink more. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 10:51am
You do not know that for a fact. It is a possibility, but so are many other things.
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 12:13pm
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I do know the leg cramp pills do work for me! Takes maybe a minute or so for them to kick in. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 1:59pm
Hyland's Leg CrampsIngredients:Inactive Ingredients: Lactose;Magnesium Stearate;Microcrystalline Cellulose Ingredients: <strong>Active Ingredients:</strong><p>Aconitum Napellus 6X HPUS, Cinchona Officinalis 3X HPUS, Gnaphalium Polycephalum 3X HPUS, Ledum Palustre 6X HPUS, Magnesia Phosphorica 6X HPUS, Rhus Toxicodendron 6X HPUS, Viscum Album 3X HPUS</p><strong>Inactive Ingredients:</strong><p>Lactose, Magnesium Stearate, Microcrystalline Cellulose</p> Active Ingredients: Magnesia Phosphorica 6X HPUS;Viscum Album 3X HPUS;Rhus Toxicodendron 6X HPUS;Gnaphalium Polycephalum 3X HPUS;Cinchona Officinalis 3X HPUS;Ledum Palustre 6X HPUS;Aconitum Napellus 6X HPUS Directions:Dosage: 1-2 Caplets Instructions: Adults and children 12 years and over: Swallow 1-2 caplets with water every 4 hours or as needed. If the initial dosage is not providing relief, swallow 1-2 caplets with water every 15 minutes, for up to 6 doses. Under 12 years of age: Consult a physician. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 3:00pm
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'yellow pee is not for me'...... DD is correct. providing everything else is normal, which is what we're talking about in this thread, dehydration causes leg cramps AND yellow pee is a 'marker'. taking a glass of water evry 1/2-1 hr will slowly get you 'up to snuff'. DD's also right in that you need to 'waterup' the day BEFORE you toil hard ,all day in the the sun, eat 2 bags of chips, drink a few beers........ THAT trifecta will land you in ER with 3 IV stuck in you....BTDT, NeverAgin !! ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 5:14pm
| There is a NON Sugared Electrolyte drink called Powerade ZERO, Has made a believer out of me. Doc told me TOO MUCH Water was draining my body of nutrients even as I was not dehydrating I was losing minerals and gave me leg/muscle cramps. SHE Suggested the Powerade ZERO. Wally World generally has it, as does our local grocer IF I ask them to order some in. I like the Orange red and blue. The lemon Lime reminded too much of the Colon Cleanser for inspection days, just can't do it!! |
Posted By: fixer1958
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2019 at 6:39pm
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DD's also right in that you need to 'waterup' the day BEFORE you toil
hard ,all day in the the sun, eat 2 bags of chips, drink a few
beers........ Yer probably right about that. Takes a lot sometimes to realize you ain't 30 anymore or even 40 for that matter. I've always had that mainly in my toes and the arch of my feet. As I get older it has moved up into my legs. Over the last few years it doesn't go away as easy as it used to. Doesn't happen that often but when it does better hang on. Not 911 to me but don't discount what Joe says. I thought beer was the cure for everything.....at least when you are about 12 deep and just getting started.
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Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 4:42am
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Well,,tonight is the first nite that my right leg has not hurt from the last cramping incident,,, I been really gettin after it with the electric massager and most of the pain had finally left. I got an appointment with my PCP for next Tuesday and hope the blood work tells us what we need to do. That last one scaired me cause you think of all kinds of chit when there is no help close by and you can't even reach for the phone,,,,Dang,,it hell gettin old,,,!!! That muscle was swelled up to the size of a large cucumber, hard as a rock and bout 14" long and it would twitch when I was tryin to rub it down,,,,whew,,,!!! As I said earlier, I do drink like 7-8 of the 32 oz glasses of water every day,,,but I sweat a lot of it out pretty quick too,,, my pee is always from a pale yellow to a clear so,,,,,, Hopin Tuesday comes around quick,,,,,
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 5:48am
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DJ..... life is like a teeter-totter, all about BALANCE. You're drinking a LOT of water BUT you need to BALANCE that with electrolytes(salts the body needs). Hopefully a blood test will tell the story When giving blood,they now hand out a bottle of water and a bag of 'salty snacks'. balance teeter-totter ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: ford8nwd
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 6:22am
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Many years ago doctors prescribed quinine tablets which worked like a miracle. They were taken off the market, several times, put back on, and then taken off for good a few years back after they were found to cause a few heart attacks. You can still order them from Canada, at least you could a few years ago. Need a doctor's perscripition. The VA doc told me these were the only sure-fire remedy. I took them for years and they always worked. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 6:36am
Again....maybe. Depends on what he eats on the average day. And one man’s sweat a lot is another man’s normal day without issue. It MIGHT be potassium or something, might not. He’s doing the right thing getting his blood checked. |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 7:50am
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I've herd, though haven't checked the label that Quinine is in Club Soda..... ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: ac fleet
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 9:05am
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I have cramps in legs, hands, and fingers. --Drs. had me try a bunch of stuff and nothing works. --Cramps come and go. The worst ones are leg cramps at night and I get them bad after a long hard day mowing/weeding gardens/etc. ---Drs. said that I am overdoing it and need to slow down!--Well that will happen when they put me in the ground. They are always bitching at me to drink more water too, problem is that water makes me sicker than a dog. -- can't stand much of it but I drink when I'm thirsty. don't have time to go for water all the time.--- can't work with one hand! I see all these yuppies with NO hands standing around with phone in one hand and drinks in the other when they s'posed to be working. Anyway, the blood tests they did on me show that the psa count is double what it s'posed to be and climbing so now next week gotta have a biopsy done, ( damn tests!) not looking forward to it either. Wife says maybe they will figure something out . DJ---Ya it's hell to get old!!---ole body just starts falling apart and seams like nothing slows it down! Good luck on your tests!!
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Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 9:14am
| My PSA was high last year the biopsy confirmed Prostrate Cancer. mine was found early so radiation and recovery still waiting for the side effects to go away. but 3 months after completion of treatments PSA back to normal cancer is gone just frequent follow-ups for now. |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 7:49pm
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Talked about different things from here with my Wonderful, she told me I needed to get the name of what works to take her pain away. But is not a prevenative to keeping them from happening. Hyland's Leg Cramps, she buy's it on line.
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Posted By: Dale (Stonelick)
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 8:30pm
| I put a bar of hand soap under the sheets in bed with me. Provides relief in a few minutes. My chronic night time leg cramps are now history. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 12:23am
| Joe...what muscle are you talking about????? sounds like a Gods send to me! (poke) |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 4:36am
Well now,,Shameless,,,,,I bet ole Thad $100 that the possibility of it bein YOU that raised the question of which leg muscle it be that was wound up,,,,would be the first one to do so,,,,,,,  But since you DID ask,,,,I'ma gonna humor you,,,,,,
 It was the inner muscle that runs from your kneecap on the inside of your leg up to your crotch,,,,!!! Now,,I know the insinuation is that I'm referrin to something else is not so,,,,,The muscle that was crampin me so friggin bad had swelled to bout 2" diameter and bout 10" long,,,(I gots long legs)and,,,,and,,,would twitch while I was rubbin it tryin to get it to calm down,,,,NOW,,I KNOW all this sounds very suggestive,,,but it is the troot,,,OK,,?? |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 6:01am
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DJ, are you GENTLY stretching the other way while massaging the cramp ? GENTLY is the key here ! A little pull,say 10 seconds, then release for 5,over and over. Also take long deep breaths...try to 'calm down' the brain and the body'.. GENTLY, as for the timing, you'll soon figure out what rate/ratio works best for you when it does release, keep doing it for another 3-5 minutes otherwise it'll cramp up again ! you need to 'retrain' your leg to be normal NOT go back to cramp mode. Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |