Buda 292d engine
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Topic: Buda 292d engine
Posted By: Wes Jackson
Subject: Buda 292d engine
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 5:53am
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I am looking for a good engine for my Fiat Allis 65 motor grader |
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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 8:06am
| I do not believe this a Buda Engine if is the later version M65 or 65B. These were a re-engineer of the old DD series and contain a few cosmetically appearing similarities but I am fairly certain the DDs were the Allis series engines as Farm Tractors had and would expect the 65 to have a Fiat supplied engine. Any chance of Year of machine and if has a 65B designation? In 1974 they adopted a better engine for the 65s, the Fiat engines were installed after 1979. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 8:16am
| I stand corrected, is a Lanova D262 series if prior to 1979. If is a D262 may wish to try for a 4BT Cummins change over or look to NORAM as to how they attached a later model CNH engine into the M65 Frame. |
Posted By: Wes Jackson
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 8:22am
| Mine is a model 65, I think early 70 model. What would be involved in changing over to a Cummins engine |
Posted By: Wes Jackson
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 9:50am
| Will a Allis Chalmers 2900 fit this grader without a lot of mods, just weighing my options |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 10:01am
| Most everything is side swapped, Fuel, Linkages etc, likely a better choice than a 4BT but would also have to find a flywheel compatible for the drive system or have one made for either. What is bad on the old engine? |
Posted By: Wes Jackson
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 10:20am
| Plug came out of intake and the engine sucked in about an acre of dust which ate the pistons,rings etc. Rebuild kit is 2 grand and pistons and rings are back ordered, trying to get grader up and running |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 1:08pm
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Could wind up spending WELL beyond the $2k and still not be up and running. Biggest concern is flywheel design for connection to the drive transmission, cannot duplicate that on a purchase you are at the beck and call of what are deemed "Prototype" or single product machine shops. I would shop around as could and dig deeper try to find the parts to get this engine together. Other option, go on Machinery Trader and try to locate a Pre 1979 M65 engine complete or a second machine just for yours to become a parts provider. |
Posted By: Wes Jackson
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 3:53pm
| Thanks for the help and advice.I was hoping to find a running engine but not having any luck, guess I will wait on pistons and rings and rebuild mine. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 3:55pm
| Believe will be better off at least $$$$ wise. |
Posted By: Ian Beale
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2019 at 9:05pm
Would that have been the last Lanova system in production then?
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DMiller wrote:Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2019 at 4:54pm
| I am thinking so, but had the Roosa Master style Injection pump instead of the Rotary PSB. |
Posted By: Wes Jackson
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2019 at 5:42am
| I found out the head is cracked so I have decided to sell this grader and a parts machine as well, block and crank are good, trans good,all hydralic cylinders rebuilt, make offer! Located near Florence SC |
Posted By: Steve allis dozer
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2019 at 7:04pm
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you could fit a 262 gas motor pretty easy |
Posted By: Ian Beale
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2019 at 9:29pm
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Did you get that head pressure tested? A bloke here did up one of those motors on a DD. Said it had head cracks but they didn't go anywhere under test so they used it.
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Posted By: TramwayGuy
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2019 at 10:22pm
| Cracks on Lanova heads are common. Both Oliver/Waukesha and Allis/Buda. They are usually not fatal. |
Posted By: Wes Jackson
Date Posted: 14 Sep 2019 at 4:46am
| I got the head back from the machine shop and the cracks are hairline cracks where the injector holes are, was told this is common on these engines. I allready bought another grader so this stuff is still for sale. |
Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2019 at 4:46pm
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The Allis Chalmers Buda D262 has a Lavona combustion. I was used in D17 tractors and the M65 and DD graders among others. ------------- 1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A |