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Topic: First time since 1986
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Subject: First time since 1986
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2019 at 6:46pm
Or 87 that I went to the dentist. I’ve had bleeding gums for a while so Jenny made me go. They cleaned my teeth and scraped my gums. The dentist said I need my 3 remaining wisdom teeth removed and a tooth in front of the remaining bottom wisdom tooth was damaged from the wisdom tooth growing forward. I also have to have a root canal. The dentist was concerned over the bleeding and asked for a blood pressure test. They told Jenny it was quite high and now she’s making me go to a doctor as well.



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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2019 at 7:01pm
Sorry but HAVE to laugh. Was in that very predicament some years back, halitosis(extreme bad breath regardless how well brushed or mouth rinsed with washes) along with those issues. Ended up getting jaw scrapped beneath the gums, and yes they split them between teeth and peel them back to clean buildup of bacterial colonies, bone loss re-growth seeds installed and off to home FOUR Times(do it in quadrants). Before long started losing the corruption game where gums receded from teeth exposing the root with less enamel a few root canals, a few heavy crowns three teeth lost and a bridge installed.

Still doing better than surviving two brothers, one older one younger that have been RELIGIOUS with tooth care and Both have lost so many teeth may end up with partials or implants to chew in a few years.

My biggest problem was and IS I chew too hard, have little to NO pressure sensation to teeth in the jaw so Crush foods and in the process stress fracture my wide flatter molars. Actually rolled THREE Gold Crowns off by one dentist that had NEVER seen one roll off and in less than three years after install. Split a custom Porcelain Crown like was made of bakelite. Dentist hates me!!!


Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 7:29am
Dang, maybe my 6 month visits are not a bad idea.  Confused


Posted By: ac hunter
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 7:45am
     Better take care of that blood pressure. I have a cousin that didn't and had a stroke 3 weeks ago. I have been dealing with blood pressure meds lately too. Hope you find one that works well for you, but get it under control. Much easier than dealing with the consequences of ignoring it.


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 7:40pm
I go Wednesday to get a root canal and she’s trying to get me a Dr. appointment for earlier that day. The following Wednesday I go to a surgeon to have him access what all he has to do and set a date to pull the teeth. She’s trying to set it up for a Friday so I can have the weekend off.


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2019 at 11:47pm
pull them all...you won't regret it!


Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2019 at 6:36am
Must be Shameless is low maintenance!


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2019 at 6:59am

 Well, Thad you gotta do something bout thet hi blood pressure,,cause it is a silent killer and at the least could be a header to a stroke or seizure which are bad, bad character,,I can surely vouch for that,,,,go,and don't make any excuses,,Ya hear,,!!!
For too many years,,I neglected my teeth thinkin they was gonna be there forever,,,,now I got a mouthful of OH, Oh's that constantly remind me of my mistreatment or neglect. My problem is I tend to gnash my teeth while asleep and I asked the dentist and he tells me there are some soft rubber thingies you put in mouth but they will not stop just make it easier on the ones you got left.
 I heard what ole Shameless tole you and I can't even stand still to think bout pullin ALL what teeth you got left,,,,CHIT as bad as I hurt with just this  one,,,CHIT,,don't let me even think bout all of them,,,,chit,,,chit,,,!!!just go ahead and call me a puss**, go ahead,,,,,LOL
 You let Ms Jenn talk you into goin and seein bout thet Hi Blood Press tho,,,,,Clap


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2019 at 7:30am
Originally posted by desertjoe desertjoe wrote:


 Well, Thad you gotta do something bout thet hi blood pressure,,cause it is a silent killer and at the least could be a header to a stroke or seizure which are bad, bad character,,I can surely vouch for that,,,,go,and don't make any excuses,,Ya hear,,!!!
For too many years,,I neglected my teeth thinkin they was gonna be there forever,,,,now I got a mouthful of OH, Oh's that constantly remind me of my mistreatment or neglect. My problem is I tend to gnash my teeth while asleep and I asked the dentist and he tells me there are some soft rubber thingies you put in mouth but they will not stop just make it easier on the ones you got left.
 I heard what ole Shameless tole you and I can't even stand still to think bout pullin ALL what teeth you got left,,,,CHIT as bad as I hurt with just this  one,,,CHIT,,don't let me even think bout all of them,,,,chit,,,chit,,,!!!just go ahead and call me a puss**, go ahead,,,,,LOL
 You let Ms Jenn talk you into goin and seein bout thet Hi Blood Press tho,,,,,Clap

No worries Joe I do exactly what she says. I’m learning just what ole Les was talking about with his nurse. Mine sure nuff runs the show.


Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2019 at 8:55am
Men are notoriously stubborn.  You think you are a man, ain't nothing gonna happen to you.  If I woulda went that way my cancer woulda been a whole lot worse.


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Posted By: JW in MO
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2019 at 11:36am
My baby teeth pretty much rotted out of my mouth most likely due to the over use of Tetracycline, a penicillin substitute.  My dentist at the time said I'd probably have false teeth by the time I was 18, between my parents and myself we proved him wrong and probably spent two small fortunes over the years doing it though, so, who's ahead?  Over 60 now, have one root canal, and that's  all of those, last time the dentist said root canal I said pliers, having the best teeth in the cemetery is not one of my goals.


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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2019 at 11:30pm
Thad...swish hydrogen peroxide in yer mouth every day (mix with mouth wash for flavor), helps a lot with the bleeding gums!


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2019 at 11:32pm
yep...beginning to see (2) puss** out there! ya'll gots to train yer partners!


Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2019 at 2:19am
A high-school friend of mine is an anthropolgist, he works for a crime lab, and has a medical minor in dentistry, but he doesn't work on people's teeth, he examines remains for forensic identification and reporting.

In his spare time, he studies remains of much older generations... hundreds, to thousands of years old.... a fascination of his is sociology and history.  He's done everything from examining remains found in Native American burial grounds (to determine the tribes to which they belong) , to sorting out mass graves in Eastern Europe, and Revolutionary-War era buriels discovered during construction excavations.

He noted lots of interesting things to me, but the one that has always stuck, is that people live longer now than they did just a hundred years ago, and the greatest change in population survival for humans occurred with the advent of dentistry.

This is not to say that people didn't live to old ages (because they did), but that a hundred-and-fifty to two hundred years ago, humans' AVERAGE life expectancy, over the entire population, was substantially less than it is now.

He noted that while animals' lifespans stayed about the same, even with veterenary care, humans' average life expectancy has almost doubled.... And the difference is mouth care.

He noted that a high percentage of the 150+ year old remains he studied, that were between 10 and 40 years old, exhibited overwhelming evidence of protracted infections inside their jaws or sinuses.

Something to keep in mind when you're uncomfortable in the dentist's chair.


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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2019 at 7:05am
Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

Thad...swish hydrogen peroxide in yer mouth every day (mix with mouth wash for flavor), helps a lot with the bleeding gums!

I been using peroxide for years. The dentist thinks 40 years of Copenhagen took its toll.


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2019 at 7:28am
40 years of Copenhagen....be thankful and hopeful that all you have is fixable tooth issues.


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2019 at 8:11am
Copenhagen, Skoal wintergreen, Beechnut leaf, Prince Albert in the pocket tin (for rollin), and Kool Herberts when flush with dough and actin cool when a kid in the early mid 70's. Kool Herberts were the equivalent of Camel or Lucky Strikes in menthol, and they were strong.

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Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2019 at 5:01am

  Well,,I can surely vouch for takin much better care of your teeth,,,,,,when you got good ones,,!!  Everybody wants to put these off almost till it too dang late,,,  This last tooth I had pulled has been a real woolie bugger for me as it finally quit hurtin last day or so,,,chit it was ,,what 3 weeks ago I had it pulled,,?? I danged sure NOT lookin forward to pullin the other one been botherin me right along with the other one,,,maybe I get lucky and it settle down some,,,,,Clap One less thing to worry bout,,,,


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2019 at 6:12am
Originally posted by desertjoe desertjoe wrote:


  Well,,I can surely vouch for takin much better care of your teeth,,,,,,when you got good ones,,!!  Everybody wants to put these off almost till it too dang late,,,  This last tooth I had pulled has been a real woolie bugger for me as it finally quit hurtin last day or so,,,chit it was ,,what 3 weeks ago I had it pulled,,?? I danged sure NOT lookin forward to pullin the other one been botherin me right along with the other one,,,maybe I get lucky and it settle down some,,,,,Clap One less thing to worry bout,,,,

I agree. I’m dreading this but when that lower wisdom tooth is gone and I’m all healed up I should be able to eat peanuts. 👍. As is there is a hole that they get stuck in and causes an infection. Been that way ever since it arrived when I was a young’en. It’s pointing forwards and should have went away years ago.


Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2019 at 7:09am
i have donated three teeth thus far and I eat the hey out of peanuts.  After totally healing of course.  Wink


Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2019 at 11:10am
Wink Joe time to try a different mechan................... I mean dentist.LOL


A neighbor I and I were discussing tooth aches. Him being somewhat hard headed he had his wisdom teeth taken one at time........as needed.LOL All over the USA for 3, but 4 was in Wales . The British dentist did it with the least effort and fuse and he had way less pain.

So like mechanic stuff find a specialist. The Brit never worried about fixing a tooth they just take them out,Wink  so they do it best.



Thad hope your Wonderfull picks Doctors that know what to do Wink and get it done right.


 


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2019 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by Ray54 Ray54 wrote:

Wink Joe time to try a different mechan................... I mean dentist.LOL


A neighbor I and I were discussing tooth aches. Him being somewhat hard headed he had his wisdom teeth taken one at time........as needed.LOL All over the USA for 3, but 4 was in Wales . The British dentist did it with the least effort and fuse and he had way less pain.

So like mechanic stuff find a specialist. The Brit never worried about fixing a tooth they just take them out,Wink  so they do it best.



Thad hope your Wonderfull picks Doctors that know what to do Wink and get it done right.


 


Ray her dentist said he wouldn’t touch the lower wisdom tooth and recommended a surgeon. The surgeon will take all 4 or 5 at the same time. Trying for a Friday with a weekend off. That’s all this guy does so it should be good.


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 12 Aug 2019 at 10:23pm
someone told me there wasn't any dentist's in AR! I didn't believe them Thad!


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2019 at 5:08am
Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

someone told me there wasn't any dentist's in AR! I didn't believe them Thad!

We have a saying down here. He’s busier than a SWMO dentist. We live on the border so we’re loaded up on dentists.
The tooth brush was invented here. If it was invented anywhere else it would have been the teeth brush.£


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2019 at 1:36pm
Tooth brush - Teeth brush,  that's funny Thad. LOL

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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 13 Aug 2019 at 11:08pm
Originally posted by Thad in AR. Thad in AR. wrote:

  The dentist thinks 40 years of Copenhagen took its toll.


'dipping' tobaccos, being not regulated as 'food', usually contain 'abrasives' to accellerate absorption of nicotine.  These abrasives are what destroy gums, cheeks, tongue, sinuses, and throat...  so he's probably right...  Ouch


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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 7:13pm
I made it through round 1. These dentists were much better than the traveling portable I went to all those years ago. We’ll see how I feel in the morning.
I have 3 more appointments to go. Gonna be a rough month or so.


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 11:28pm
I could bring you down sum ice chips for ya!


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2019 at 5:06pm
Hold him to it Thad. Wink

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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2019 at 5:14pm
Originally posted by chaskaduo chaskaduo wrote:


Hold him to it Thad. Wink

I’m skeered he’s gonna send some of them 51/2” hail balls like they got out west.


Posted By: Ron Eggen
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2019 at 11:01pm
just tell them you want to use conscious sedation and you will never feel any pain , you will just wake up and be ready to be driven home with some ibuprofin and feel fine in a day or two.  The only way to go.


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2019 at 5:07am
Originally posted by Ron Eggen Ron Eggen wrote:

just tell them you want to use conscious sedation and you will never feel any pain , you will just wake up and be ready to be driven home with some ibuprofin and feel fine in a day or two.  The only way to go.

Ron that’s how they did this first round. They offered a prescription for pain pills. I took Tylenol before I left and nothing since. I’m amazed at how well they did.


Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2019 at 6:56am

 Well,,I'm glad you doin OK with round 1, Thad.  When you gonna go back for round 2? Mine finally stopped hurtin a couple of days ago but I have got to stop, somehow, from mashing my teeth at night. Dentist told me he gonna look into that for a fix,,,but he ain't pullin any more teeth just yet,,,,LOL


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2019 at 12:18pm
Round 2 is Wednesday and round 3 Thursday. Wednesday I get a cap over the tooth they put three root canals in and Thursday I see the surgeon to look and set a date to pull the 4 teeth. When all that’s done I then go to the blood pressure Doc. The Nurse gonna have me hittin on all 8.


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2019 at 12:20pm
Somewhere in there I get a filling in a top tooth.


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2019 at 12:34pm
Ain't it fun getting older, as said before taint for the timid.

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Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2019 at 5:58pm
Seems like Jenn's doin' a "restoration" on ya, Thad.  If it's top to bottom, look out what comes next!!!  Obviously she wants ya to last a long while!  You'se a lucky man!


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2019 at 10:49pm
Now that's funny Albert!!!,,,,,,,,top to bottom,,,,,LOL

You're a lucky man Thad, I had ALL four of mine taken out,,,,,,,while I was in the service,,,,,,,,all four at ONE TIME.  He used a chisel on the bottom two to break them in half so he could pull them.  ya think you can live on water for two weeks??


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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2019 at 5:18am
Originally posted by Ted J Ted J wrote:

Now that's funny Albert!!!,,,,,,,,top to bottom,,,,,LOL

You're a lucky man Thad, I had ALL four of mine taken out,,,,,,,while I was in the service,,,,,,,,all four at ONE TIME.  He used a chisel on the bottom two to break them in half so he could pull them.  ya think you can live on water for two weeks??

Ted I can live on what ever Jenny says I can live on. 😆😆😆


Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2019 at 1:17pm
I had all of mine pulled before I got out of the service too, only had 3.


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 3:58pm
Just got home from the oral surgeon. He got started pulling the bottom wisdom tooth and called it off. Rescheduled for a couple weeks from now. Said the sedation wasn’t working. I’ll be so glad when all this is over. Gonna bring in another surgeon to help.
I got a temporary cap over the root canal last night. They’ll put on the permanent when the surgeon is done. The wisdom tooth is grown in to the tooth they’re trying to save.


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 5:58pm
Thad you's one big mess.Wink

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Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 7:19pm
That must be one tough tooth if the oral surgeon couldn't get it and is calling in reinforcements. Hope it all works out well. Once you get the teeth taken care of it may help with the blood pressure problem.

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Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2019 at 7:22pm
Originally posted by desertjoe desertjoe wrote:


 Well,,I'm glad you doin OK with round 1, Thad.  When you gonna go back for round 2? Mine finally stopped hurtin a couple of days ago but I have got to stop, somehow, from mashing my teeth at night. Dentist told me he gonna look into that for a fix,,,but he ain't pullin any more teeth just yet,,,,LOL

Joe, you might want to go by a sporting goods store and get you a "boil and bite" to use at night. Just leave the strap attached so if you swallow it you can pull it back out. Used one for about 3 months and it helped with my teeth grinding.


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Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 4:46am

 Hey Thanks,,Hubert,,,I'll check that out,,the local Walmart didn't have anything,,but maybe Ebay or Amazon,,,,,Chit,,sometimes,,I wake up my whole side of face hurts in the gums from all the teeth mashing,,,

 Gosh,,Thad,,,, you goin thru some important issues there so keep after it ,,it'll soon be over and maybe get back to normal routeen,,??
I'm kinda dreadin my upcomin dental issues and jst the other day,,one of the teeth on my other side broke in half and now startin to feel it every day,,,chit,,,chit,,,


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 8:40am
Originally posted by Hubert (Ga)engine7 Hubert (Ga)engine7 wrote:

That must be one tough tooth if the oral surgeon couldn't get it and is calling in reinforcements. Hope it all works out well. Once you get the teeth taken care of it may help with the blood pressure problem.

Could infection cause high blood pressure? There has been infection between the wisdom tooth and the one it grew in to causing soreness and swelling. They’ve got all that cleaned out and no more bleeding gums or swelling. Makin me feel a lot better. I can’t stay awake long at a time today. Sure be glad when this stuff wears off.


Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 9:05am
Thad, I'm not a medical doctor nor do I play one on tv but I do know that tooth/gum problems will affect your heart health. My blood pressure goes up when I have my semi-annual cleanings but it is because of that cute dental hygienist. LOL

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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 9:45am
Has your pressure gone up since getting hitched? Heart Embarrassed Wink

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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 10:47am
Originally posted by chaskaduo chaskaduo wrote:


Has your pressure gone up since getting hitched? Heart Embarrassed Wink

I don’t know?£££ I haven’t had it checked since high school football physical and it was high then. That was a long time ago. I was dating Jennifer then and had a very hard time passing that physical. 😂😂😂


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 10:48am
shucks Thad...if'n the dentists around here can't pull a tooth, they take a vise grips and break them up and then pull the pieces out. i'm thunking you are gonna look like a true arkansasy dude soon! we want pics!


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 12:58pm
Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

shucks Thad...if'n the dentists around here can't pull a tooth, they take a vise grips and break them up and then pull the pieces out. i'm thunking you are gonna look like a true arkansasy dude soon! we want pics!

I can’t figure this out either Shameless. The dentist looked at my teeth and the young girl cleaned them then they send me to the city for the root canals. Then back to dentist and he grinds off the back of the tooth and fits on a temporary cap then to surgeon to see about pulling them teeth. He says he’s gonna knock that cap off pulling that lower tooth but will glue it back on. He schedules it and then says sedation won’t work and needs another surgeon. And different drugs to knock me out. I’m getting nervous from all the knock out stuff. I think I’m getting run around so they can make more money from insurance. The new quote to pull this tooth would scare a rich man. And still have to have Dentist put on permanent cap. Jenny hasn’t told me how much our part is yet.
I’m going through the same over my back, knees and blood pressure. Different test in a different town every day. And now they got me taking tests to see if I can handle physical therapy that I don’t have time to do anyway.


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 1:25pm


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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 1:31pm
costs $600. to have any tooth pulled here.


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2019 at 1:32pm
yep...I think there's some insurance fraud going on, at your pain and expence.



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