Maybe a CA??
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Topic: Maybe a CA??
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Subject: Maybe a CA??
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2019 at 10:12pm
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Folks, This is only a warning and shouldn't be over a one page post! I have been driving by this CA for about 10 plus years. Getting more overgrown around it all the time! Sinking into the dirt each year! I stopped several times years ago and ask about it. No not for sale. Today on the way past I seen there was a garage door open and someone outside. Had a brain fade and turned around and went back. I didnt even look to where the tractor sat. I didnt even shut the truck off! I ask the guy about the CA. He says yea, might sell it now. I told him the normal prices for a running tractor and more if that have good rubber. I told him he can check prices as good as I can on the internet. He says, "Well not sure what shape it is in after the big willow tree fell on it"? Other guy says I think the machines setting next to it stopped the tree before it hit the tractor! Yikes. We went to look. I could see a patch of rear tire among the branches. The rest is buried under limbs. He took my number and said he would think about it. Wanted to get it out and look it over. Might call me in a week or so? I gave him a price of $300 as is under the tree with me removing the tree. That may have been way too much??  Anyway we will see. Not going to loose any sleep over it! I think Cheryl has always wanted me to have a CA:)?? But maybe I just dreamed that part? Me and the dog may have to live in the trailer if I drag another orange unit home. Humm wonder if I could have it running for the local tractor show on the 19th HuuuuuMMMMM???? No pictures on this one! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2019 at 10:16pm
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GO FOR IT !! .............. you cant loose at $300. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: wade89
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2019 at 10:40pm
| 300 for a parts CA would be dirt cheap in my area. Cant have enough orange equipment. It really is an addiction lol |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 06 Jul 2019 at 11:20pm
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19th of when??? ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: frnkeore
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 1:39am
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Chris, If he doesn't get back to you. I'm trying to sell one for a friend (plus 2 B's). The price is right (it's in the classified's) and Oregon is BEAUTIFUL, for a summer vacation plus, I'd sure like to shake your hand :) A Pacific Ocean CA, there is nothing like them, the rust is special ;) ------------- Frank 1959 D17 Series I #24001+, '59 D14 '55 & '59 Ford 850 & 861 Ferguson TO 35 Deluxe, Oliver 70 and 5 more. |
Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 6:36am
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Ah, the orange addition bites deep, doesn't it? Go for it, Chris. ------------- WC, CA, D14, WD45 |
Posted By: Larry in NC
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 6:54am
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Afraid to drag another orange one home? Here is one disguised in green. Only $300. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/309693679934311/" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/309693679934311/
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Posted By: ac hunter
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 6:54am
| Chris, You will like a CA. Nice little tractor. I got one several years ago that needed some work. Is easy to work on because everything is on the small side and there wasn't any problem getting parts. Just fun to drive it around. Russell. |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 6:56am
You already have our permission.  ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 8:00am
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The shop manual can help getting it running: http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/Allis-Chalmers-G-B-C-CA-Service.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/Allis-Chalmers-G-B-C-CA-Service.pdf Gerald J. |
Posted By: exSW
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 8:41am
| I think $300.00 is generous. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 11:15am
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Folks, I new I would not get too many in disagreement from this site. Deal is no where near done and tractor may be toast?? Thanks for the support I think! Yea that would be July 19th! Regards, Chris
------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 11:24am
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The Green one is a steal if you can get past the GREEN. UGH!! Green doesn't do a CA any justice! LOL! The rear tires are worth more than that..... Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 11:24am
July 19th of which year?  ------------- WC, CA, D14, WD45 |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 12:08pm
May be a Little Marv & Sugarmaker team for a 07, 2019 finish. 
------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 1:52pm
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Rear rims and tires and the wheel weights are worth well over $300. Just too far from me. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 3:55pm
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Cast iron seat could make it a big bargain,about 100 miles from me. |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 4:48pm
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Maybe its a military version lol. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 2:01pm
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Folks, A update: Had a chance to view the CA (under the willow) again today. The owner is slowly cutting the tree from around the tractor. Rear tires not good. Engine oil looked to have water in it?? sheet metal dented from fallen tree, no hand clutch. Battery box not good. Tried to turn the engine over with fan belt , no luck, I think engine is stuck. Right rear rim looks like it might be ok? I think if folks gave you these types of tractors it would still be over priced!:) So the plan is he is going to get it uncovered and pull it out in the daylight. He mentioned my offer. Dang I thought maybe he had forgotten! The plot thickens! Also on a separate but related subject I took the D17 front tire to get repaired. While at the shop a friend said he might be selling his CA, if his son doesn't want it. Man I sure hope the son wants it! It runs, was honed and re-ringed 20 years ago. Is a wide front. Was in a fire and repaired. He just is getting older and doesn't need it. Dang these orange tractor are falling out of the sky! Do I have a sign on me or what! I can see it all now: A larger trailer to haul two antique tractors to shows and or pulls. CA in 2500 or 3000 class WD45 in 4000 and 4500 lb class. One can dream a little!:) No I forgot to get pictures under the willow. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2019 at 3:11pm
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Don't stand in one spot to long Chris. Hopefully the son don't want. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2019 at 8:03am
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You will love a CA Chris! Fit right in with the rest of the herd! |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 2:22pm
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Folks, The good and the bad. Mostly bad I think. Stopped and took a picture of "Willow". Sad.  Oh Yea the bucket is deceiving, bottom is mostly gone. Pretty sure both rear tires are junk. Yep she's in there! Not sure how fast the guy was going?:) Tractor has not had any love in a long, long time. These are the ones that need to be brought back right! I think! About the only positive thing is that it is a narrow front and those rims are not in the dirt to far yet! Not sure why I am attracted to the narrow front tractors?? Maybe from my first drive on our WD when I was about 10?? Rear spin out rims might be OK??? Someone gave them a extra coat of white paint at some point. That paint scheme would fit right in too! Regards, Chris
------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 3:45pm
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It must be a fairly early CA , with the magneto mount conversion for the distributor. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 4:01pm
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Doesn't look that bad to me,I'd try to buy it. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 7:34pm
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Folks. Ctucker and Gary, So what year/s might it be?? Doesnt look like it has a snap coupler. Has some type of 3 point, as the brush hog is still attached. I don't have much info on these CA tractors.So I had no idea on the mag to distributor conversion? A WD series I know a little bit more about those. We will see how this plays out. I am keeping my expectations EXTREMELY low!:) My quick view of it says it will need a complete engine rebuild, new rear tires, probably new front tires. Hand clutch is missing at least the handle is not there. The thoughts for something like this would be to make a 2500 or 3000 LB tractor for some local antique tractor pulls. That would put me in another class compared to the WD series tractors. It would bring my orange tractor count to 4. Seems I can only drive one at a time! So this is getting a little out of hand as normal in my life. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 9:22pm
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If anyone can save that thing you are the man! |
Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 10:01pm
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Sure hope you can save it! Keep us posted. ------------- 1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45 |
Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 11:35pm
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Looks like a keeper to me! That rim indeed looks to be in good shape. Time to get that dang tree off her and bring her back to life. ------------- WC, CA, D14, WD45 |
Posted By: frnkeore
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2019 at 12:18am
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It doesn't look as bad as I had imagined, from your first description. I think I would be tempted :) ------------- Frank 1959 D17 Series I #24001+, '59 D14 '55 & '59 Ford 850 & 861 Ferguson TO 35 Deluxe, Oliver 70 and 5 more. |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2019 at 8:13am
I would guess 51 or 52 maybe. I'm not sure when they went to the factory installed distributor, but Snap Couple system started in 53 some time I believe. It would have the Traction Boost system, just not a gauge for it. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Sugarmaker wrote:Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2019 at 8:32pm
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Folks, Have driven past "Willow a dozen times and no more action from the owner. But at the local fair I did see, and lean on, and drool on, a wide front end CA that could be the one a friend said might be for sale?? This CA has duels on it! I call it "Big Foot"! Hood is wrinkled.  I'm allowed to hijack my own thread! Also a shot of my 45 and Nic's WD.  And my wide front WD gets some love! I used rubbing compound on the tank, hood, grill and fenders. Looks much better!  Sure looks like the guy had a serious problem with sticking to the paint scheme from the factory! Regards, Chris
------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2019 at 7:16pm
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Folks, Some additional shots of the CA at our fair. Sorry about the size. My resizer did not work and I was too lazy to go back and fix them.     Also the back sides of the WD45 (center) Gary's WD left, and Nic's WD right.  My Ford and the D17:  Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2019 at 8:36am
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Interesting way to get a little extra weight on the 45 Chris. As much as those CC wheel weights bring around here I'd keep'em under lock and key. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2019 at 8:45am
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Mike, Folks, I just grabbed what ever looked like weights. Not very pretty. The 45 should be at around 4900 lb. for the 5000 lb class. Will attempt pull on cement and the farm stock pull on Friday. Considering a little weight on the front, but not sure what I can find? Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2019 at 8:43pm
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Maybe a CA you say?!? My good sir ,you definitely need and should have a CA in said collection be it either the one overtaken by the brush or the dueled up unit or any decent CA for that matter.....yes I’m biased on the A-C CA😁. This was the very first Allis I ever laid eyes upon,learned to drive on,broke land and planted with since I was old enough to remember....my grandfathers narrow front ‘53 he bought new the day my dad was born....the one I’m still trying to buy back actually.Yeah,like most here I’m an enabler too😂 ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 13 Sep 2019 at 2:13pm
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MD, Folks, Good and bad news on my CA adventures! On the dual wheeled nice CA. It is now owned by the grandson of the. I was very happy as this is a family tractor and is definitely in the right place and in good hands! Now "willow" I found out from a passerby at the fair that he had put a crank in it years ago, and its stuck! Doesn't surprise me Thats the stuff I drag home! .Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2020 at 9:05pm
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Allis folks, Driving by "Willow" I was surprised to see that the owner had extracted her from under the fallen tree. Its was a good sight. On the way back by I stopped and talked to the owner and he said he was going to throw a battery in it and fire it up! He also said he had my number. So we will see. I think the motor is probably froze up tight. And I don't think he has the time or dollars to get this started? We will see. Anyway I asked if I could take some pictures:     This is the one I said I would give him $300 for it. not sure that includes the brush hog? Doubt it. Just sold my rough 5 foot brush hog a pull behind to friend Matt. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2020 at 10:47pm
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That seems like it's right up your alley! You may be right - it may end up for sale in a couple of months if he can't get anywhere with it. ------------- 1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45 |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2020 at 9:02pm
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John, I really dont need another tractor project but if the it happens then we will see. I was pleased just to see it out from under the tree! It actually looks better than I thought it was going to. Yes there are many moves to make to get these operational again! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: exSW
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2020 at 9:00am
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Looks like it would make an excellent rake tractor. ------------- Learning AC...slowly |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2020 at 7:43pm
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exSW, Good to hear from you! I was thinking a 2500 or 3000 lb puller!:) Would be a great excuse for me to get a bigger trailer and haul two tractors to local antique pulls. The owner hasn't called me so maybe he is brush hogging with it!:) For some reason it has me eyeing it as a new project/ challenge. I am going to assume it needs a complete engine rebuild. As I think the rain cap was not in place. It had a bucket over the exhaust for many years but even that finally failed. Regards, Chris
------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2020 at 6:35pm
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Chris,you should’ve give him the $300,loaded and left with that CA...he did most of the work getting it out of the tree.You should go back and see him before he spends any money on it. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2020 at 9:17pm
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Mike, I stopped and talked with Willows owner today. He thinks he can pull it and get it started?? I think its froze up. The dip stick end has been reduced in size. good sign that water is in the oil/ engine. Will let him play with it. Good news its not mine right now. My friend Ted has a wide front CA he wants me to come and look at! We seen a CA that I viewed months ago at the auction yesterday. It brought $100. Had many many issues. Mainly a parts machine. It was the one I think I posted pictures of somewhere that had the RC wheels on it. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2020 at 11:13pm
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CA wide front? Interesting... be sure to update my friend. I’m just now catching up on everything...I had to have somewhat of a surprise back surgery last week and just now feeling alive and human again. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2020 at 6:06am
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Mike, What is going on? Your too young for that back stuff! Sure hope your doing well! I had a blown disc in fall of 2017. Had to go under the knife too. I can relate a little. Get some rest young man! Tell your folks I said hi! Regards, Chris
------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: MDWilliams338
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2020 at 9:30am
Yessir I sure will. Well I think it had been coming for about a year but I just took it as getting older. Right after I got finished with the D19 we realized it wasn’t showing a charge so first thing I pulled the side panel off and sure enough I had put the wires on the new amp gauge backwards. I literally just squatted down only holding a flashlight and it was like I got hit with a cattle prod and bush axe at the same time. Two herniated, a bulged disc and a 7.5hr surgery later I’m doing better...slowly but surely. ------------- ‘42B,’45B,’48C,’51CA,’52CA,’69170,1935WC,1936WC,WD,WD Highcrop,WD45,WF,D10/14/15/17/19 It isn’t how you die.It’s what you live for.-Daniel Boone |
Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2020 at 10:54am
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Looks like Willow has tires that at least hold air... ... ...for what that is worth. ------------- Holding a grudge is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2020 at 3:21pm
Chris, you cannot go wrong with 'Willow' for that kind of money and I'd
(kinda) insist that the bush hog goes with it for that price.  It might
give you some wiggle room. If he tries to pull start it, he'll blow that engine all to pieces.  But then you can get the whole thing for scrap price.. I wasn't so sure I wanted a CA either, but now I've got 3 of them. You WILL fall in love after you get to running it. And after all you've been through with the other A-C's, this one will be really easy and fun to work on.GOOD Luck! Ted ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Dave(inMA)
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2020 at 9:44pm
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Chris, I'm with Ted on this one. I'd even up the ante a little to try to tempt him out of blowing that engine to bits. That's sort of like tractor murder. But maybe he'll be smart enough to stop trying that when the wheels are dragging and the engine isn't turning over. I've pull-started a few but only after making sure that the engine was loose, fluids were good, etc. Good luck! Dave ------------- WC, CA, D14, WD45 |
Posted By: JohnColo
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2020 at 12:16am
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That CA doesn't look all that bad, I hope the owner doesn't mess it up and you get it at a reasonable price. Any action on your new building?
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2020 at 10:39pm
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Thanks guys, Old Willow has not moved, when I drove by tonight. Give it another week and I may stop and see him again. Mike, You be good to that back now! I just had one blown disc and that was enough for me! I try to be more cautious about lifting things now too. John, The building project is still in the design phase. Some materials are on order, some not yet. Its a big project for me! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |