Decelerator HD11E 1968 model
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Topic: Decelerator HD11E 1968 model
Posted By: Dingo55
Subject: Decelerator HD11E 1968 model
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2019 at 5:30am
A question on decelerator on HD11E please. My 1968 model, direct drive, doesn't have a decelerator pedal function. There's no plumbing for one, so is it safe to assume one was never fitted?
Were decelerators an optional extra/special equipment on HD11E's?
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2019 at 8:25am
cant say for sure on 11's but they were optional on 16's o my guess is yes especially that late. I put one on my direct drive 16 its a 59'.
------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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Posted By: Dingo55
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2019 at 8:39am
Thanks Joel, much appreciated. So, it begs the question - why did you put one on your 16? To help reduce torque shock on the transmission, help to improve longer life on final drives etc?
Begs another question too. Why would AC release a crawler without a decelerator? My limited understanding of decelerators suggests they are most useful, if not essential?
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2019 at 8:55am
i push a lot of trees, so its alot of shifting and back and forth. I figure its easier on the clutch and driveline to clutch and shift at low rpm and speed back up than just leaving engine wide open. otherwise its another arm motion to pull the lever and you know there is plenty to control on these machines.
its nice in dirt work too as i like to use R2 because R1 is soooo slow. after pushing, throttle down, clutch, shift to reverse and accelerate to about half throttle. when im back to my pushing spot, throttle down, clutch, shift and let her rip. just handier to manipulate the machine i think.
------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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Posted By: Dingo55
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2019 at 9:10am
CAL(KS) wrote:
i push a lot of trees, so its alot of shifting and back and forth. I figure its easier on the clutch and driveline to clutch and shift at low rpm and speed back up than just leaving engine wide open. otherwise its another arm motion to pull the lever and you know there is plenty to control on these machines.
its nice in dirt work too as i like to use R2 because R1 is soooo slow. after pushing, throttle down, clutch, shift to reverse and accelerate to about half throttle. when im back to my pushing spot, throttle down, clutch, shift and let her rip. just handier to manipulate the machine i think. |
Thank you for that. Got it, makes a lot of good sense. Might have to look at fitting a decelerator.
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Posted By: Dana Hobson
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2019 at 9:39pm
My 68 HD-11E direct drive has a decellerator pedal that I think is stock. Serial number 12887.
------------- Dana Hobson
Perry, OK
B,WD-45,D-10,D-12,D-14,D-15,D-17,D-19,D-21,200,7060, HD11E,Gleaner L2
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Posted By: Mactractor
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2019 at 6:39pm
If you are bulldozing short distances (frequent direction changes), fit one if your tractor does not have one. So much easier on all of the drive line.
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Posted By: Ian Beale
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2019 at 1:35am
If you don't have a parts book have a look on line at Minnpar and see what shows
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Posted By: Dingo55
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2019 at 9:40pm
Ian Beale wrote:
If you don't have a parts book have a look on line at Minnpar and see what shows
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Thanks Ian. Have parts & service manuals. It shows the decelerator setup in detail.
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Posted By: Dingo55
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2019 at 9:43pm
Dana Hobson wrote:
My 68 HD-11E direct drive has a decellerator pedal that I think is stock. Serial number 12887. |
Thanks Dana. Apparently decelerators weren't standard to all dozers. Pity, they obviously have a very useful function.
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Posted By: Dingo55
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2019 at 9:46pm
Mactractor wrote:
If you are bulldozing short distances (frequent direction changes), fit one if your tractor does not have one. So much easier on all of the drive line.
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Kia ora Mac. Agreed, but I've decided to sell the HD11E.
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