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Topic: aftermarket wide front for a WD
Posted By: wide
Subject: aftermarket wide front for a WD
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2019 at 5:39pm
I've been seeing a few wide fronts with the round tubes.
 They might be schwartz or something like that.

 Here's one for sale:
  https://desmoines.craigslist.org/grd/d/saint-charles-allis-chalmers-wide-front/6891749725.html" rel="nofollow - https://desmoines.craigslist.org/grd/d/saint-charles-allis-chalmers-wide-front/6891749725.html

Are they better than the stock wide fronts?



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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2019 at 8:49am
wide, if you're looking for a wide front end for a WD, I have a 4-bolt I will part with.

Don't know too much about the aftermarket ones other than I don't care for how they look.


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2019 at 9:16am
They don't turn as short as OEM and look like crap.


Posted By: tomstractorsandtoys
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2019 at 4:35pm
DrAllis has it right. There are plenty of factory ones at reasonable prices why would you consider one of those. Tom


Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2019 at 6:46pm
I have never been around a WD with after marked front end but have been around JD and IHC. Do not put a loader on one. Spindles are not heavy enough.


Posted By: wide
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2019 at 6:06pm
Thanks for the info.


Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2019 at 6:20pm
that one is gone!

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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2019 at 6:54am
They turn like lumber wagons..... or at least that what I was told but I've never driven a lumber wagon.  I have driven a WD with a Schwartz front end and I prefer the factory wide front purely for the maneuverability..... and looks!


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Posted By: wide
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2019 at 12:13pm
The one in the link looks like it has a platform for the front end to sit on.
 I'm not sure how the factory wide front is mounted but I think it's just a few bolts screwed into the cast material.

 I think that was the first thing i noticed,.. also the price is down to $100.
 Thanks for the info. Doesn't sound like it's better than the stock 4-bolt wide front.
 



Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2019 at 10:57pm
This is a Schwartz front end:But it's not installed the 'normal' way.

Normally, a Schwartz frontend of this flavor, would mount in such a way that the existing narrow-front steering pedestal was still in place, but with the wheels removed, and replaced with a steering arm that acts on rods to the steering knuckles.

The Schwartz company did NOT make front ends with the intention of being able to turn as tight as a factory WF.  They didn't even CONSIDER that as a concern... they built their front ends to make tractors strong enough to survive under the load of the Schwartz fully-hydraulic front-end loader... and be 'EASILY' installed and replaced from a NF farm tractor to change from wide-front manure-moving, to narrow-front picking corn... which AC, and virtually any other manufacturer, could NOT do.

While the factory wide front and narrow front may turn tighter, turning radius is a moot point when the nose of the tractor is on the ground with a broken steering knuckle, and a bucket of wet pooh  holding it down...  but I can assure anyone with no doubt, that the Schwartz (the one I own, at least) is substantially stronger than ANY of the OEM wide fronts prior to the D17...


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