Slipping steering clutches
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Topic: Slipping steering clutches
Posted By: rhead1
Subject: Slipping steering clutches
Date Posted: 29 May 2019 at 6:01am
| I have my HD6B up and running pushing a lot of dirt but I think I have a slipping clutch problem. When I put the clutches together...using all exiting bi metal plates.... I had to add steel plates two per side to get the proper stack height. I put them together the first time just like the manual states which is the friction plate against the pressure plate. In doing this, the first friction plate( once installed in to the flanges) was just on the edge of the drum and came misaligned with the stack. This caused a very hard removal of the steering clutch. I removed both clutches and rebuilt them with the steel disc up against the pressure plate which put the friction discs teeth further in the drum. Is this causing the slipping problem or are my discs worn out. They spec’ed out at around .148 thick. The book said they were good till .125. Another indication of the slipping is when put into gear (2nd forward and reverse) it has a bit of a run up to speed and if I am going up a incline it’s a bit of a struggle to get full speed. Sorry for the long description |
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Posted By: Ages Cat
Date Posted: 30 May 2019 at 7:48pm
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I have had the main clutch slip on several tractors. It sounds like your main clutch is slipping. ------------- Curt Anderson HD3, HD5B, HD6E, HD6AG,HD6B dozer, I-400, 615, 616,(2) 620, 720, ACP25 lift truck, 1956 D Special Grader, AC 540 loader, AC 655 crawler loader, AC #84 plow, Simplicity lawn tractors. |
Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 31 May 2019 at 12:13pm
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Seems steering clutch slip - unless they are oil soaked composition is a rare thing - now have heard splines hanging up on bi-metal but unusual . Might pay to check master clutch further as suggested above ------------- Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something. "Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful." |
Posted By: rhead1
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 7:59am
| Would the test be to just tighten the clutch one notch and rerun the machine to see if there is a difference? |
Posted By: Jim.ME
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 8:18am
| Unusual that both steering clutches would slip the same. Master clutch is the common point if the drive is equally weak side to side. Check the master clutch as others posted. |
Posted By: gemdozer
Date Posted: 02 Jun 2019 at 9:59am
| You should have more than 2 11/16 inchs and make sure the pressure plate is't ben by inside and could missing pression on discs |
Posted By: rhead1
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2019 at 6:50am
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I don't understand the dimension listed. Is it the dimension setting the clutch lever? |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2019 at 7:41am
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rhead1 wrote:Posted By: gemdozer
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2019 at 12:27pm
| The new stering cluch is 2 7/8 inchs but can be use until 2 11/16 inchs and you should have 3 inchs free travel when measured at the top of the lever and you should have 1 3/4 inchs to 2 inchs free travel on brake pedal. |
Posted By: rhead1
Date Posted: 05 Jun 2019 at 4:58am
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Thank You all for your help. It was the Master clutch slipping. I adjusted it tighter one notch and works great. I will double check the steering clutch free travel. |