1938 Allis Chalmers WC Speed Mantainer Grader!
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Topic: 1938 Allis Chalmers WC Speed Mantainer Grader!
Posted By: Alanv8
Subject: 1938 Allis Chalmers WC Speed Mantainer Grader!
Date Posted: 15 May 2019 at 11:16am
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Hello everyone! I'm Alan, from Argentina. I've bought an Allis Chalmers Grader yesterday, and i'm wanting to "restore" it to take it back to life. I don't know much about it, cause i didn't have time to read the original plates to see the year of manufacturing and model of it. I took some pictures, so if any of you can give me some advice or info about it, i would be very gratefull!! Also i'm afraid that some part is missing in the Wayco distributor, does anyone has a photo of a similar one?? i've been looking in the internet but i can't find the same one... Thank you very much in advace!!!      |
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Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 15 May 2019 at 12:17pm
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Built on wc tractor chassis. If the rear wheels are original i would say early 1938 as it is the unstyled version. Did you mean WICO magneto? unless it has a special magneto from south america they are very common here in the usa ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: Alanv8
Date Posted: 15 May 2019 at 1:04pm
 
edit: The missing cap is something like this?? (i found the photo on ebay)  |
CAL(KS) wrote:Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 15 May 2019 at 2:18pm
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many different 4 cylinder models of magnetos could work as long as the impulse angle and rotation are corrrect. i dont know the specs myself but someone will post here for you. good luck as far as i know most of the ones here in the usa used Fairbanks Morse Or FM mags
------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 15 May 2019 at 2:51pm
| Steve at B&B should be able to help you if parts are available |
Posted By: Alanv8
Date Posted: 18 May 2019 at 6:27am
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Hi!! It seem to be a 1938 as you said!!! It has a series A WICO Mag, but as i mentioned, the distributor cap is missing and, i believe, i will never find it here around. has anyone changed the ignition system for something newer? electronic o something like that??  |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 23 May 2019 at 6:31am
You have an Unstyled WC Speed Maintainer. 411 were built in 1938 and 1939 with the majority being the styled version that also has a different and improved grader frame where it mount at the front. Someone has extended the front end. They were replaced by the extended front with a wide front axle WC Speed Patrol that is fairy common. Mine is only one of three unstyled versions that I know about  ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: NomoreJohnDeere
Date Posted: 23 May 2019 at 9:04am
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very nice ------------- HD3 |
Posted By: Alanv8
Date Posted: 26 May 2019 at 7:44pm
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Hi Calvin!! thank you for your response!! I didn't noticed that the front end was modified until you mentioned that!!! jeje. I think i will restore it back to it's original length, i like it most... Here i found a video of a similar road mantainer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl5W97DsYpk" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl5W97DsYpk Do you have more pictures of this grader model? Up to now, the missing parts are: the hood, the fuel tank, the magneto distributor cap, and the grader blade clamps. Will post some pics later to figure out how they should be, cause the grader blade have more fixing point than the ones that i have seen.
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Posted By: Alanv8
Date Posted: 26 May 2019 at 8:05pm
| The front plate from the grader in the video says 1C141 , mine says 1C138, and yours Calvin? |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 27 May 2019 at 6:11am
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My plate is 1C114. I do have lots of pictures and an owners manual along with advertising and sales brochures. I did not know about the Maintainer at the museum. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: Alanv8
Date Posted: 27 May 2019 at 4:09pm
| Nice!!! Have you ever used it as a graver? I need to make a way/road in quite soft soil, do you think it can make it? |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 27 May 2019 at 7:55pm
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I have not used the Maintainer. Years ago I had a Speed Patrol which was the model that came after the Speed Maintainer. It had an extended front frame and wide front. I used it until we put down recycled asphalt and then later real pavement. You should have no problems grading dirt as long as you don't make your cut too deep all at once. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: Alanv8
Date Posted: 31 May 2019 at 5:47am
Hello everyone!!! Thank you Calvin!!! This week i've started the restoration, in particular with the rear wheels, rims painting and tire change. I built a tool to remove the old tires and assemble the "new" ones. Will post pictures soon!!!  Is this grading blade original from allis chalmers? it's 3 m wide and the grabbing points seem not to be original. Was it modified?    |
Posted By: Alanv8
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2019 at 11:36am
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First Run!!! https://youtu.be/wQbUkmSin0w" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/wQbUkmSin0w
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Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2019 at 1:14pm
| that sound of it running sure boost the spirits that is areal neat machine |
Posted By: Alanv8
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 8:33am
Ohh yesss!! it sounds wonderful!! 81 years and still running like first day!!!  Here you have a video of the first round https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPA72fzqCeQ" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPA72fzqCeQ
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Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 07 Jul 2019 at 2:54pm
| That is certainly great. |
Posted By: Alanv8
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 6:03pm
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Posted By: NomoreJohnDeere
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 9:33pm
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works good in that soil for sure steer with the brakes? ------------- HD3 |
Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2019 at 11:18pm
| real nice |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 6:49am
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Given some basic attention those old Allis' just keep on working Good job Alan! Beautiful soil your pushing there too! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Alanv8
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 7:27pm
Yes, really difficult to get used to operate it jeje Still got pain in my arms
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Posted By: Alanv8
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 7:29pm
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Posted By: Alanv8
Date Posted: 30 Jul 2019 at 7:34pm
Thank you!! Now i understand why did the previous owner modified the front end. Otherwise the soil would get stuck in the wheel |