for the first time in over 25 years....
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Topic: for the first time in over 25 years....
Posted By: darrel in ND
Subject: for the first time in over 25 years....
Date Posted: 08 May 2019 at 6:45am
| I won't have a suburban. Ever since our oldest son was a couple months old, we have owned a suburban. First one was a 78, then an 85, 93, 95, and the last one has been our 01. All of the them have been fantastic vehicles, and have served us well. Finally after close to 340,000 miles, we have decided to knock the 01 in the head rather than fix it. Couple of weeks ago, I noticed a vibration/noise that wasn't good. Repair shop found a wheel bearing out and replaced it. Still had the same problem, so they took it back in and did some listening with the stethoscope. They found noise coming from the transfer case and the front differential. I had thought about having them put some used components in to replace them, but after some thinking, decided against it. I know that the transmission isn't long to the world either. The engine seems strong enough, but with 340,000 un-touched miles on it, it could blow at any time also. I guess it's just time to let it go. I have a potential offer for it for salvage, that if I get it, isn't bad. Out of all the suburbans we've owned, this last one certainly has been the best. It's a 3/4 ton with the 8.1 gas engine, but I guess that even it can't last forever. To replace it with another suburban would be fantastic, but not really feasible. All of our kids are grown up now, so we don't have to haul that many people and that much stuff any more. And the price they get for them things is ridiculous; out of our budget. Thus, the suburban era at the Schulte household comes to an end. Wife wants to look for a good used Chevy Traverse. I am a little more "GMC Acadia" inclined, but it looks like I won't win that one. At my age, I am just happy to have something dependable, as long as it is a GM product. Darrel |
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Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 08 May 2019 at 7:16am
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I hear Ya,,,,Darrel,,,,  Even tho ole Shameless rakes me over the coals alla the time cause of this one "hand Me Down" F150 my Son Gave me,,,,(as in "Free"),,,,,I have pretty much been a GM man all my life,as was my Daddy,,,, While the Boys was growin up we also had vans, suburbans to haul them AND their friends all over the state to games and school activities. After the last son graduated,,,we traded the last van for Chevy car,,much better on gas and lots cheaper too,,, Suburbans are great vehicles for what they were made for but like you say,,,,have become some of GM's most costly vehicles to buy.
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Posted By: Bull
Date Posted: 08 May 2019 at 8:23am
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We are driving an Acadia now. It is a really handy vehicle and not a bad value relatively speaking. ------------- WD45 Diesel, RC,CA,IB, B, G, 616, Early B-10, D-10, Terra Tiger, 95G spreader, SC blade |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 08 May 2019 at 10:02am
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my parents kept theirs to haul around the grandkids! ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 08 May 2019 at 10:55am
| Yep after 41 years of drive Buick park ave we'll be driving a Ford escape wanted to buy a Buck encore but it was way to small for us and couldn't fine a Buick enclave that was what we wanted did fine a 2018 Chevy Equinox that had 16000 miles on it but was higher price than the new 2018 Ford escape by 2400 dollars so that what we bought we may regret doing it we'll see. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 08 May 2019 at 12:05pm
| i'm now driving the hand me down suburban my old lady....oooops….I mean my loving wife used to drive. she gots a newer suburban. we don't haul that many people either any more. we got the newer one for the ride they give so nice! plus we like the full size vehicles over the smaller ones. we had to dig up sum of the cans to pay for it, but we like it a lot! sorry I won't see you in another burb! what you gonna use to pull that trailer with now? |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 08 May 2019 at 10:18pm
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OH,,,My Goodness,,,guys,,,he has finally admitted to havin them cans of cash buried out back,,,,,I'm gettin out of here and get on Google Earth quick see if I can see the newly disturbed earth,,,might be a pattern to where the others is,,,,,,???
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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 08 May 2019 at 11:00pm
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I too hear ya Darrel. I'm with Kenny with that Buick thing. For as far back as I can remember (getting less and less each day now) I've had a Buick Park Ave. Buick (GM)(Government Motors) had decided that they would combine the Park Ave and the LeSabre. Well they succeeded in wrecking the only good car they made. We went out and bought a New (it's a 2007) Lucerne. WHAT a piece of junk! That decided it for me,,,,,the last Buick I will ever buy. Nothing is cheap anymore and I don't think I will ever get another NEW car.... ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 08 May 2019 at 11:33pm
| I also still have my diesel burb, needs a starter put on it, just haven't gotten around to it yet. it's gots over 400 K miles on it, still a tough old gal, and the ac still works on it! Darrel...there are lots of those year burbs out there yets, either for driving or for parts.... |
Posted By: Darrell G (MN)
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 6:33am
| Kenny, we bought a Buick Envision and just love it, it's a little brother from the Enclave but much more roomier than the Encore. Took it to Arizona this winter and got over 30 mpg on the trip there. |
Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 6:36am
| I don't know how the younger people are going to be able to find vehicles to buy in the future because no one will be buying new one and trading good used ones in the cost are so out of hand, the car that we would've trade in was a 2005 Buick park ave with 79000 miles on and could only get 2000 +or- for it and could get a better deal with no trade in so one of our kids will be getting a good car. |
Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 6:56am
| Darrell, I do all my vehicle buying at small town dealer and I didn't even see one use one and the new that they had was more then I would paid, the escape out the door was less then 29000 with the title, taxes, and the other fee plus the under coating, mud flats, fitted floor mats, and 2yrs. or 24000 free oil changes and tire rations. We think it was a great deal and the dealer will bend over to try and help if something comes up and give a loaner car to use when need. |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 7:46am
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I currently have 3 suburbans. A white 99 with 250k miles wife and daughter will drive it. A white 95 3/4 ton 454 powered one with 160k miles. Wife won't drive it. And a blue 88 suburban lifted 6" on 35" tires with 1 ton axles with lockers.My son is the only one that even rides in it. It only has 120 k miles and only 30 k on the GM target master replacement engine. None of them are daily drivers it would kill me to put fuel in them to drive 50 miles a day. I currently have a buyer for the 88 I'll hate to see it go. |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 6:57pm
| Don't no one tell Shameless that I am even thinking this way, but I just run across what looks to be a good buy on a Ford expedition EL. I might give the guy a call. Darrel |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 09 May 2019 at 7:34pm
| Darrel....there was a reason they quit making those... |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 6:50am
they still make the expedition. The excursion is the one that they quit. I am not etching this one in stone yet. Somewhere there must be a burb out there that I can afford. I think that we are temporarily scratching the Traverse idea. I have heard a couple of times now that whatever size tire that they have on them cannot be gotten in a heavy ply. Thus, country roads = lots of flat tires. And we have a minimum of four miles of gravel roads every time that we leave the place. Darrel |
shameless dude wrote:Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 6:56am
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Do y’all know what looks really good on a Suburban? A Bronco 😆😆😆 |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 12:29pm
yeah, I suppose suburbans do have to carry dead broncos around in order to get them where they need to be. .....the junk yard! Darrel |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 12:42pm
| *high fives Darrel |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 10 May 2019 at 6:30pm
| Say what https://youtu.be/3j-qy1s1RIM" rel="nofollow - https://youtu.be/3j-qy1s1RIM |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 11 May 2019 at 7:16am
That’s interesting. Coworker just bought a used one and 2 of the tires are shot at 20,000 miles. They’re cupped/ twisted and make the vehicle shake at 60. There’s other reasons I don’t like the traverse, now another one! |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 11 May 2019 at 9:10am
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On a serious note have you considered a Jeep Grand Cherokee. My mom has a 2004 and my wife a 2008. They have the most comfortable seats I’ve ever sat in. We pull a trailer with my wife’s quite often. The six bangers are running machines. I’m not a Dodge guy but these both are very comfortable and both been very dependable. As a Ford guy I would avoid the big Ford suburban looking rig. My dad and step mother had one. 3/4 ton diesel. They brought it here a few years back. They don’t like the curvy roads so they had me driving them around. It was the worst driving vehicle I’ve ever drove and according to my dad it’s a real tire eater. They traded it in on a Burb and been happy ever since. It pains me to report this but it’s the truth. Now the Ford mid size that replaced the explorer with the GT40 302/5.0 is a running beast . |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 11 May 2019 at 9:15pm
| I looked at a new suburban today 75000.00 + dollars. Gosh I didn't pay that much for 80 acres 25 years ago. |
Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 11 May 2019 at 10:12pm
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Have you considered a Tahoe or Yukon? We went from a suburban to a Yukon. Wife loves it. ------------- Looking at the past to see the future. '53 WD, '53 WD45, WD snap coupler field cultivator, #53 plow,'53 HD5B dozer Duct tape.... Can't fix stupidity. But will muffle the sound of it! |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 12 May 2019 at 1:29am
| Thad...I seen that commercial back then too, also saw the Chevy one, and didn't believe that one either. number one...the box sides would never hold up with that kinda weight bouncing on either truck! nor would the bumper stay on pulling that much weight. any them bumpers would bend in the middle pulling one out of a shallow ditch! |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 12 May 2019 at 6:30am
I remember laughing at it back then too. I like how the bed heals up fine but one fence post will cave it in. I also laugh that the Ford is bouncing all over but the two being towed look like they are rolling on pavement.😀😀😀 |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 12 May 2019 at 8:42am
I'll take the extra length of a suburban just for ride and handling on icy roads. Darrel |
Posted By: jorstad brothers
Date Posted: 12 May 2019 at 11:34am
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I have a 03 up here with your name on it. ------------- remember plunder than burn |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 12 May 2019 at 8:56pm
There you go, Darrel,,,that sounds like a deal you just Cannot pass up,,,,,
, and,,,,and,,,,it prolly comes with a full tank of gas too,,,, |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 13 May 2019 at 5:39am
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I have a '72 Buick 455 in my '84 Chevy P30 step-van... what a motor! I have had people snub their nose at it with 'gas guzzler' attitudes, but fuel economy is almost as good as the 4BT Cummins diesel that came out... and it's about half the weight, and 3x the power, and it'll SPIN fast enough to go down the highway at reasonable speed. The Buick engineers had ALMOST everything right. Better cylinder head castings, some oiling system improvements, port fuel injection and distributorless ignition, and that big V8 would've ruled the roost for big vehicles forever. The Oldsmobile 455 had the closest thing to 'RIGHT' oiling system (basically ready for dry-sump from the factory)... but the Buick would out breathe everything at typical speeds. I picked it because it was 500 ft-lbs out-of-the-box, and only 160lbs heavier than a Chevy 350. I suspect your 8.1L had at LEAST a 4L80 transmission in it, and a heavy-nuff transfer case to support it... it'd certainly last after a good rebuild, but that many miles probably included some corrosion... a full-on restoration would've been pretty deep. ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 13 May 2019 at 9:27pm
| wooshouse in mo valley ia has 2 under $17,000. (burbs) am 07 and a 13. |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 13 May 2019 at 10:26pm
Hey Good Buddy,,,,,since you knows all them auctions places and,,,,and,,,where all things are for sale,,,,,,how come you ain't located me a massey parts tractor,,,,?? I can see if I was askin you to help me find one of them four letter ones that start with a F,,,,???
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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 13 May 2019 at 10:48pm
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Fergie May be he's only seein 4 letters instead of six without his spectacles on. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 14 May 2019 at 12:10am
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Kenny, can I be one of the 'kids' for a while?? I'll be right over to get it... ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Kenny L.
Date Posted: 14 May 2019 at 8:01pm
| Sorry Ted you weren't a good child grow up I've written you out of the will completely. |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 14 May 2019 at 8:18pm
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Ouch! I hate when that happens. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 14 May 2019 at 10:15pm
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Hey Dave,,,yeah,,I too remember the Buick 401 and 455 of the 70's and 80's ,,,,500 ft lbs of tire screeching torque,,,, I remember the rage was to get a set of the ultra rare SBC heads with the 15° valve angles "Ala Buick" that made the SBC an absolute screamer,,,,I never could save up enough dollars to get a set,,,,,,
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 15 May 2019 at 12:18am
| Darrel....how you gonna park yer trailer in my yard again if you pull it with anything but GM? |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 15 May 2019 at 7:17am
| With my budget crisis, I won't be pulling any trailers even accross the road, much less to your neck of the woods. Last couple years, farming hasn't been lucrative. Darrel |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 15 May 2019 at 8:54am
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Hey Darrel,,,did you see the post by Jorstad Brothers wanting to give you an 03 for,,,,for,,,little or nuttin,,,,,
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 15 May 2019 at 7:16pm
yup. I already visited with him about it. It's got a few too many clicks on the odometer. Darrel |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 16 May 2019 at 3:33am
| start raising hemp, you'll be rolling in money! |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 16 May 2019 at 8:10am
Shammers I don't want to roll in it, I just want some to spend. 
------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 17 May 2019 at 11:08pm
| lots of newer burbs out there Darrel, just gotta surf sum. check with the utility companies, I've bought 6 vehicles from them, and they have lasted a long time! they gits regular maintainance. |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 18 May 2019 at 8:34am
| The ole.....loving wife has made the executive decision that we are fixing up the old burb. She needs it to haul her quilting stuff around. How do you say that word of disgust.....something like pooooopht. (means "me not happy") On the bright side of things, or maybe the dim side, the ole burb might reach a half million miles. Darrel |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 18 May 2019 at 8:51am
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Hey Darrel,,,I like the way your better half thinks,,,cause,,,,cause that is what I would do,,,, Just start counting how many trannmission/transfer cases you could buy with bout $50,000 cost of new trk,,,,,, Seems like that is what they told you was the reason you wanting to get rid of it, I'm thinkin you got a little time before you GOT to do something and I will say this,,if you or the wife are on facebook,,I bet your kids are tho,,,,have then start lookin on "The Marketplace" and I'll bet you'll find one somebody is selling out of a wrecked LOW MILAGE vehicle,,!! I see those 4L80E's in there all the time for $600-$1200 already out of trk. Up in your country,,I'll bet every burb ever sold is 4X4 so they will NOt be scarce. Then you pay the local mechanic the going rate for the change-out and you are done. Might want to give that a shot.
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Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 18 May 2019 at 2:44pm
| With that kinda miles you fix one thing and and other breaks and where do you stop and enough is enough |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 18 May 2019 at 4:07pm
I'd have said enough quite some time ago, if'n I was the boss. Darrel |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 18 May 2019 at 4:10pm
| Joe, you like the way my other half thinks...? Perhaps you are hinting that she may be "frugal?" Well, frugal would be an under-statement. Nuff said. LOL! Darrel |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 18 May 2019 at 5:57pm
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I've got a 1989 E-150 window cargo van, 159,000 miles. Dusty Forgot to add it's a 300-6 with a 5 speed stick on the floor.
------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 19 May 2019 at 12:08am
| what's wrong with buying a 4 door pickup with a topper? be about the same thing as a burb! and there are a zillion of the used trucks out there! |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 19 May 2019 at 4:06am
Well,,Darrel,,,the man has a great point there,,,,,,
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Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 19 May 2019 at 4:21am
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Hey Darrel,,,you just gotta be more positive,,,I'm an eternal "half full" type of guy and just cause you having to replace the tranny at 350,000 miles does not mean you ever gonna have to work on it ever again,,,, I've read so many posts here and I know you have too bout some other folks here runnin their cars or trks way past 500,000 miles and still going strong. I look at it this way,,"IF" you have to replace something else next year,,,and then something else the year after,,,you still a long ways from a $1,000/month payment for bout 4 years,,,,,, OH,,I wouldn't call your sweet thing "frugal",,I'd say she knows how to use a calculator pretty good,
,,,'sides that F word is for skinflints like ole Shameless,,,,,,,, |
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 19 May 2019 at 8:55am
| I'm overhauling the rear diff on my 270K mile suburban right now. I've put brakes and tires on it and last year it got some front end parts. I'm way under a new truck payment. I plan on driving it till I have catastrophic failure. I tried that with my Blazer but gave up at460K miles and sold it. Finding a used suburban is a lot easier than finding a good used pickup. Look in Craigslist in the closest large city most of them have been used for soccer mom taxi. They usually don't even have a trailer connection. The used trucks on the other hand are usually beat by junior playing offroad demon. Or hauling way more than a half ton should. |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 19 May 2019 at 9:46am
| My poor old SD Ford needs the front axle resealed and likely ball joints for the second time, also need to open the rear diff and replace the clutches for the limited slip. Still considering something bigger as to a Class 6 or 7 to replace it. |