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Topic: I was blessed this weekend!
Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Subject: I was blessed this weekend!
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2019 at 1:07pm

I had the privilege of buying the parts inventory from some A-C dealers when the were cut off from Allis Chalmers. Mr. Don Walter of Rio Creek, Wis. gave me the opportunity to pretty much start my own Allis Dealership (which has been a dream of mine). A big huge THANK YOU to Don for this opportunity! Before Walters of Rio Creek, Wis was dropped by Allis, he bought the parts inventory from Garrite, Duck Creek Wis; Butch Levy Garage, Kewaunee Wis; Knospe Bros, Algoma Wis; Alden Lang Imp, Denmark Wis; and Tauchek & Debauche, New Franken Wis. when they were discontinued by Allis. This is so awesome! I was also able to get a parts counter with gasket drawers, the index card inventory system (before the fish system), A-C Manuals and 6 pallet crates of bigger A-C implement parts. I found it difficult to sleep last night with all this stuff in my shop!









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Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2019 at 1:19pm
Good job!! Just a FYI. keep the index card inventory system up to-date as you sale off parts and if you can reproduce how he had his parts department setup so you can find the parts as you get all them calls for that one part they need. lol 

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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.



Posted By: Randy WI
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2019 at 2:42pm
That sounds like you hit the Jack pot great find . Randy


Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2019 at 3:25pm
Nice,, would like to hear the stories of why Allis cut off all these dealers at the time , including the one you got all this stuff from


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2019 at 4:11pm
Awesome, great find, is the pictures from your place.


Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2019 at 4:31pm
Wow, you got a lot of good stuff there. Pulley in the one photo appears to be like the one on our AC904 haybine, if it is, is it for sale?

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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD


Posted By: sparky
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2019 at 8:51pm
Alex, if the bands and shoes are for a CA I would be interested in a set.

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It's the color tractor my grandpa had!


Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2019 at 11:20pm
Originally posted by Don(MO) Don(MO) wrote:

Good job!! Just a FYI. keep the index card inventory system up to-date as you sale off parts and if you can reproduce how he had his parts department setup so you can find the parts as you get all them calls for that one part they need. lol 

Yes, we talked about how it was setup. I have numbered my shelves the same way so I can use his system, which is already on the cards. I am transferring the parts to the shelves one at a time so I know exactly what I have and on what shelf it is located.


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A&W TRACTOR 920-598-1287
KEEPING ALLIS-CHALMERS IN THE FIELDS THROUGH THE 21ST CENTURY


Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2019 at 11:34pm
Thanks Guys! Don (Walters) told me that the dealers that got cut off before him were all smaller and within 30min drive from his A-C dealer in Rio Creek. A couple years later, Allis dropped him as a dealer because there was a very large A-C dealer 30 min north in Sturgeon Bay. They are still in business as AGCO.

Yes, the pictures are from my shop, and I am willing to sell any parts you may need. Let me get it all organized this week and then Ill respond to any parts inquiries after I know what I have.


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www.awtractor.com
A&W TRACTOR 920-598-1287
KEEPING ALLIS-CHALMERS IN THE FIELDS THROUGH THE 21ST CENTURY


Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 7:35am

   Howdy Alex,
   You stuck orange, your rich! Now your just having way too much fun!

    Kurzy


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 9:51am
HOLY CHIT!!  ROAD TRIP!ClapClapClap

IF it ever quits snowing Alex.  According to the weatherman we're supposed to be getting BUNCHES of RAIN in the coming week.  THANK GOD it's not cold enough for you know who, to put out that white crap, at least this far south.  MAYBE up by you......

I'll be in touch!


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"Allis-Express"
19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17


Posted By: tomstractorsandtoys
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 10:07am
Looks like lots of fun. I have been to a few dealer sales and came home with a pickup truck so full there was no more room. It is neat what you find. 35 years ago dad bought the remains of a closed Allis dealer. It was a small dealer that sold out of a shed and quit while the early D17's were still being built. Lots of interesting stuff especially the old parts containers. Tom


Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 12:26pm
How big is the card file? I have seen them 3"x5" and I have seen them where they are on a cart and the cards themselves are about the size of a file folder. 
 Wouldnt mind seeing a photo of the parts counter either LOL


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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"

1968 D15D,1962 D19D
Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start


Posted By: Reindeer
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 4:48pm
Wow!  Cool score!  

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Posted By: GreenOrange
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 7:02pm
Wow! Surprised you could sleep at all! Great score!


Posted By: Dan Hauter
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 10:17pm
WOW!!!  Congratulations on your score.


Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2019 at 10:53pm
Congrats! Nothing more interesting than going thru NOS parts. I was fortunate to obtain NOS parts from an old dealership in Townsend, MT back in '05. Most of my stuff was pre 1970...I sold a bunch on Ebay when I first got it, this last Dec and Jan I auctioned off another portion. Lots of fun and made lots of friends!

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ALLIS EXPRESS!
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 6:34am
Man, I wish I could have bought out the dealership I worked at when they quit. They had pallets and pallets of stuff on their auction but me, being a new dad, didn't think I should bid on anything I didn't need too bad. It all went for little or nothing and a junk man got just about everything. The Peterson brothers had bought that dealership in 1951 IIRC. They had parts from the previous owners going back to the 1920's like head gasket kit for an E tractor and the y had the big gear that goes in the WC cultivator lift.... several of them. New augers for All crops and wood bats for the reel, the list goes on and on. Some stuff went to collectors but most of the parts on pallets went to the junk man. When the junk man was loading he had his children helping and I'm sure they took stuff they didn't buy. I watched as they loaded into an old grain truck. Anything near a pallet went into the truck as fast as they could throw it. Two of the kids were talking among themselves saying they didn't think certain things were theirs but it went anyhow.

I got a little off track..... Looks like you done good Alex. It has been a dream of mine to do the same.


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Posted By: Alberta Phil
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 9:26am
I bought the small amount of parts that were left from an old Allis dealer here a couple of years ago.  Most for Allis B, W series engines, and some stuff for D series. I was going to sell on the classifieds, but a lot of the parts are for my collection and there are a lot of those tractors still being used around here so I decided it would best to help keep the locals going. Traded an old JD press drill for the whole lot.


Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 12:18pm
It sure has been exciting so far going through these parts! I feel like I'm on the American Picker's TV Show!!
This card file is 8"x5" They are very complete except most of them don't say what tractor/implement they fit. By the dates on the cards, it seems he was dropped as a dealer about 1975. So nothing for the 6/7/8000 series. The part counter I bought has numbered drawers where all the gaskets were kept and inventoried. Some drawers still had gaskets in!!








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www.awtractor.com
A&W TRACTOR 920-598-1287
KEEPING ALLIS-CHALMERS IN THE FIELDS THROUGH THE 21ST CENTURY


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 12:44pm
Yea that's the index cards we have to. I'd think the reason the cards don't show what tractor or equip they fit is becouse lots of times one part fits multiple pieces. Plus think of the chain of events back then. The farmer came in with part number, or came in to you and you went to the parts books on your bench top looked up part number then you went to cards looked up number to get bin location.
Like said above, my grandfather in his older years never marked cards when he took parts out.


Posted By: ebowman
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 1:19pm
Looks better than winning the lottery!!! Got any water pump pulleys for an early 190XT? Or how about an early 3 hole Camshaft thrust plate? 

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WD45, '62 D17 Diesel, '65 190XTD, '74 7030, 1958 Roto-Baler


Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2019 at 2:10pm
Alex,
Thanks for posting the picture of the index cards.  That brought back memories from my Dad and Uncles dealership.  I remember about once a year we would do a physical inventory count of all the parts bins.  I remember that sometimes the card would say we had 2 or 3 of some part but in reality we had 6 or 7.  It rarely happened the other way; seems Dad always like to have plenty of inventory.  People would come from miles away and/or call cause they knew Dad used to keep a lot of inventory in parts.
Maybe not the best financial move, but it brought in business.
Keep the pictures coming and thanks again.
Brian


Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 9:46am
What town was your family's dealership in? Are the buildings still there?

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sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?"


Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 11:28am
SCORE!!

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"If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer"
Allis Express participant


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2019 at 4:50pm
Jay who was your question for.

Alex I to am going through cards, I'm just writing in note book so I can have copy in house. At least your cards have been written on,some of these haven't been touched tell now lol


Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 6:43pm

Well I've been busy all year with my repair shop, but somehow I inventoried all the NOS parts with the old dealers index card system on lettered and numbered shelves. I have been adding cards when I do a repair for a customer and have to order parts for the tractor. I have the service counter situated and the gasket counter organized. There are still a lot of Allis's in use on farms and for yard chores here in Wisconsin (and other states that I ship parts to) and I'd like to provide the service and parts to those people to keep there Allis's operational. And eventually design and produce new tractors bearing the A-C name.
So my service counter looks like this when you walk in the door, the gasket counter with parts catalogs, shop manuals and the inventory cards sits behind the service counter.





Say a customer is looking for a D17 governor spring and a Knifehead for a 80R mower. If they don't know the part numbers, I go to my parts catalogs or the Agco website.





Now that I found the part numbers, I go to the Index card inventory system to find the bin location and the price of the part.





I see the mower knifehead is located on shelf A114 and is $20.50.  The D17 governor spring is located on shelf A5 and cost $25.75. If the customer is okay with the price, I go ahead and get the parts from the shelves.




Anyway that's how I have my system set up. I would like to know from the guys who used to be dealers or who remember those days, how did you get a sales slip? Was it written out with carbon paper or was it typed out with a calculator that spit out a receipt?


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A&W TRACTOR 920-598-1287
KEEPING ALLIS-CHALMERS IN THE FIELDS THROUGH THE 21ST CENTURY


Posted By: bleeds orange
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 9:22pm
Pretty amazing alex.

I'm jealous.


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 11:01pm
Cool Alex. Yea we have some old carbon copy slips. I was just looking at an old one and thought it was funny the date was printed 196_. Gues it's a little outdated.

Did you get any lawn an garden stuff


Posted By: DCAC
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 6:09am
Hello Alex, would you happen to have any of the following parts on hand ?

1) 237667 seal end for a D17 air cleaner

1) 345153 Boot, axle, rear, for a 3000 Monoframe plow

1) 350291 Boot, axle, front, for a 3000 Monoframe plow

!) 349794 Drum, brake, for 3000 Monoframe plow

Thank you!


Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 6:45am
Alex, Congratulations! Your new AC dealership is so cool. Brings back floods of great memories of past years. Thanks for sharing.
Please look up the following part numbers to see if you have them:
2013810, steering arm bushing?


Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 7:15am
I would like to buy a couple of knife heads.  I have a couple of 80R mowers in need of new knife heads and the rivets to attach.  


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 8:43am
Your gonna be buried in orders before your even unpacked. Now your definitely gonna have sleepless nights. Wink

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1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp


Posted By: Alex09(WI)
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2019 at 6:18pm
Originally posted by chaskaduo chaskaduo wrote:

Your gonna be buried in orders before your even unpacked. Now your definitely gonna have sleepless nights. Wink

Yeah I was answering PM's and returning phone calls all day today, I think i'm caught up now. I only wish I could have new A-C tractors sitting on the lot


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www.awtractor.com
A&W TRACTOR 920-598-1287
KEEPING ALLIS-CHALMERS IN THE FIELDS THROUGH THE 21ST CENTURY


Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2019 at 6:27pm
The card system is the one I remember from my Father's Dealership. I still recall a Blockman and Pop spending several days setting up the parts department. Carefully painting the numbers on the bins and entering the items on the Parts Cards.
Did you get the parts catalogues?
Wonder what happened to all that. Lots of time outstanding memories.
Just a quick reply.
Will look at this again more carefully to digest all you have.
Outstanding find.
I remember at one of our Mid Atlantic Allis Chalmers Club meetings standing behind a the parts catalogues and parts index cards. Old Fashoned but worked
Good Luck!
Bill Long


Posted By: JD02
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2021 at 2:03am
Hey Alex,

I know this is an old thread now but thought I'd respond to a couple things.  Don Walter is my grandpa.  I found this post when I googled the name of the business back then.  Over the years, it was Walter's Garage, then Walter's Agri-Center, and finally Walter's of Rio Creek.

He was also very excited to have found someone to buy the parts who wanted to keep the old Allis' running...rather than someone buying them for scrap price.

I got a little more background from him tonight on the phone.  He couldn't remember some of the dates exactly but has a calendar with all of them on.

In the early to mid-1960's, he already had the business when a New Holland dealer in Algoma closed and a farmer friend convinced him to get into the implement business so they'd have a local place to buy parts.  When the dealer who sold Allis-Chalmers and Minneapolis Moline retired, he picked up those lines.

The cards that you reference actually originally came from the Allis dealer in Kewaunee when my grandpa bought their stock.  That was about 1975.  He's thinking that it was 1978 when he was dropped as a dealer.  The dealer up in Sturgeon Bay was the biggest in the area and they kept the Allis contract.  Fortunately for us, the owner of that dealership up in Sturgeon Bay is a great guy and we could continue to buy parts through him and do shop work in Rio Creek for quite some time.

Justin


Posted By: coggonobrien
Date Posted: 11 Jun 2021 at 10:21am
Any complete snap coupler latches? Prefer the heavy duty ones.



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