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Topic: AC Flail Chopper
Posted By: Bigrigger
Subject: AC Flail Chopper
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2019 at 2:02pm

Anyone have any information, regarding the Oppel Harvester Co. and it’s relationship with AC? Picked up this AC flail chopper this weekend, and would like some more insight; model 80 or 800, years produced, etc.? I looked through Swinford’s book as well as Wendel’s, and can’t seem to find any information on them. Serial # C50062. Thanks!



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Posted By: acjwb
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2019 at 7:35pm
Where did you find that?


Posted By: Bigrigger
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2019 at 7:14am
Machinery sale in Ohio


Posted By: acjwb
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2019 at 8:24am
Kidron?   I knew I should have went.   If you want to sell, please let me know.


Posted By: Bigrigger
Date Posted: 04 Mar 2019 at 1:32pm
Yeah, it was at Kidron. I plan on restoring it to use on our farm. Only thing that is missing is the left side PTO shield. I’ll probably just fab one up for it if I can’t find a replacement.


Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2019 at 9:19am
AC had a partnership with Oppel a few years where they marketed flail shredders, potato harvesters, beat defoliators and beet harvesters. 
 
I have seen a number of these shredders around and know of two that are still in good condition. 
 
I think when the partnership on the potato harvesters ended so did everything else with Oppel.  I do not believe they are in business anymore either. 
 
Jim


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An open eye is much more observant than an open mouth


Posted By: Bryan L
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2019 at 5:15pm
Oppel Harvester was located in Boise, Idaho. They made equipment for
several different equipment companies such as AC, Farmhand, and Gehl.
Some of Heston's equipment may have came from there its been so long I
Can't remember. Oppel is long gone and site has been flatten and even
the railroad is gone and is part of Boise's green belt. The highway is
now a county road.

Bryan l.
Emmett, Idaho


Posted By: Bigrigger
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2019 at 6:40pm
Thanks for all the great information so far! Any idea as to what years these would’ve been produced? I’m assuming these preceded the 56f flail harvesters?


Posted By: Carl(NWWI)
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2022 at 11:35pm
Does anybody have one of these they use? I fixed one up last year, and used it a little in the fall but it vibrates so bad it kicks the PTO out on the 190, bearings are good, U joints are good, flails all looks good and don’t see any damage on the rotor itself, curious if the vibration was normal on these(which I highly doubt) and if anyone else uses one.


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 1:27am
just a guess. But the 56f parts we have are sold as sets, and says there balanced. 
It be a lot of work but take all blades off then run it. And weigh each blade then put same weight opposite of each other.


Posted By: Carl(NWWI)
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2022 at 7:50pm
That would be a good idea to try. Maybe it doesn’t take much for it to be that out of balance either


Posted By: 200Tom1
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 12:20am
When dad started cutting silage in the 1950's the guy had an AC flail chopper. He pulled it with a WD 45. But it did not look like that. Dad bought one at a sale in the 1980's. It looked like the one I remember being used in the 1950's. It did not vibrate. Do you have the PTO shaft slid together out of sync? It has happened in the past and they can shake if they are out of sync.


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 6:48am
it probably was a 56f


Posted By: Kurzy
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 7:34am
  Howdy Carl,
   I had 2 working 56F's. One I restored and one for using. D15 wasn't big enough. Used my 185 and it worked great. As far as vibration goes, there were 36 knives that swivel on a shaft. These knives had to stay free swinging, if they did not you goy plenty of vibration! I had to first get all knives free by oiling and heat. Then keep them free with oil. The knives were steel on steel with no bearings or brass sleeves. So it was a job! Built around 1960 and in LaPorte.

Kurzy


Posted By: Carl(NWWI)
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 8:40pm
PTO shaft has an alignment spot weld.

I did not think about checking to see if all of the flails swing free, I will have to check that. I’ve also heard of the rotors cracking and filling with dirt, hoping that’s not the case.


Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2022 at 1:56pm
Carl...Did you take the drive belts off and just  run the drive line?  Also those large bore pulleys have  an adapter keyed bushing.  Any wobble in the rotor pulley.  I hope you don't get to that point...Those type choppers were brutes and could run close to the ground until.... you hit a stone...Just adding to other idea's....I know if you find it, you will know what to do...Dale  


Posted By: Carl(NWWI)
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2022 at 12:04am
I didn’t think about checking the pulleys for wobble, I will check that. Thanks Dale



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