7000 AC
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Topic: 7000 AC
Posted By: Ksdigger
Subject: 7000 AC
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 3:39pm
| What's is opinion of painting a maroon belly black? |
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Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 3:51pm
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Some of the later 7000's were black. It;s your tractor and your choice. |
Posted By: Beirnesy
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 4:18pm
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leave it maroon ------------- 1969 220,1967 190DXT,1968 190DXT, LGT's 710,,716 |
Posted By: bleeds orange
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 4:39pm
| Keep it maroon, and get new decals that look like original style decals for that year and model. |
Posted By: Ksdigger
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 4:53pm
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The tractor I have was originally maroon. A dealer I bought it from, years ago, had painted it black. I didn't really care at the time. Now I am restoring the tractor and know it should be maroon but the black looks better. I like equipment to be as original as possible so maroon it is. I see lots of comments about paint. Am I correct that the orange would be P.O. #2? What the preference for paint brand? Appreciate all the comments. |
Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 5:16pm
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I have a maroon 7000. Ya, maybe it would look better black. But it is what is, and I don't mind the maroon color. Orange color should be PO#2. I use PPG paint. Tim ------------- 1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207 |
Posted By: Ksdigger
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 6:06pm
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I just went through the entire trans and diff. Had to replace the counter shaft, 1st gear and reverse idler. Plus bearings in the power shift and all the seals and gaskets. What a project. Ready to put the rear housing back on. This is why I am asking about the paint. After this much work a nice paint job would be appropriate. Thinking about putting it in a tractor show later in the year. Thanks for the help. |
Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 7:06pm
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That does sound like a big project. What was going on that made you tear into it. Tim ------------- 1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207 |
Posted By: Ksdigger
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 8:33pm
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Wouldn't shift and stay in reverse. Gears worn really bad. I have heard this is the tractors weak link. It has set for almost 10 years. I like to restore trucks, tractors, heavy equipment as a hobby. Decided it was the 7000's turn this winter. Fairly easy tractor to work on. It's very practical the way it's built. Do you do your own repairs or have a shop do it? |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 7:02am
| Any tractor re-painted black over maroon I can tell. Every time a piece of the black paint comes off, from a power washer or wrenching, the maroon still shows up underneath. |
Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 7:15am
| I'm on the fence with color. Prefer the black but also like originality. Having said that, I did put steps on my own maroon 7060 and am currently installing a black belly cab kit. I think these changes make it more user friendly. |
Posted By: Ksdigger
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 8:00am
| I would like better steps. Have seen a few pics of some that have been made. Thinking about making a set. The originals are a little dangerous. I don't have a cab. Have ROPS with a canopy top. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 8:18am
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As much as I like all the 7000 series, my favorite Allis really, whoever thought maroon goes with orange has got to be color blind. Still think it looks like primer they never got around to painting and therefore looks unfinished/ cheap. Hey, just my opinion, don't shoot me!
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Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 8:27am
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Glad you chose the maroon. Maroon belly paint, like it or hate it, it reminds me of that era’s initiated numerous RADICAL CHANGES & NEW FEATURES that demonstrated Allis-Chalmers’ commitment. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 8:27am
| After you update the cab steps, replace the steering wheel with the newer, shallower, smaller diameter one. Makes in and out of the cab much easier. |
Posted By: Ksdigger
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 8:31am
| Can't disagree with that. Hard to believe that many people had to make that color decision and thought it was a good one. |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 8:32am
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We just got done with my open station 7040 last fall, and using automotive paint, the maroon looks amazing! We did do the orange in corporate though. There's pics of it on my FB page and on my phone, never have been good at posting pics here though lol! ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: JPG AUSTRALIA
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 8:39am
   this is the step mod done 40 years ago ,lengthen back stay out by 3 inchs puts steps on a better angle.also have to add a bit to the bottom rod. Small steering wheel was added a short time later.
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Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 9:31am
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JPG, your 7060 looks awesome! Thanks for sharing pictures. Aside from my previous post’s plug for AC, those original steps design could have only been an 11th hour after thought?? Nothing but shin busters from the start. Your step & steering wheel are great updates. InjectionEd, if you PM me, I’ll post your 7040 pictures. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 10:02am
| Well,like others,I like black bellys the best for appearance but think the maroons with the correct decals should not be altered. It's yours so do what you want.Probably no one around there who cares or knows the difference besides you. Good luck. |
Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 4:08pm
Tearing into the transmission Jerry I would not do it by myself, I'd have it done. My 7000 comes out of first real hard, so I don't use that gear. I need to adjust trans brake, have you done that. I forgot to mention that I get the maroon paint from Maibach Tractor. I did buy a black belly step for it from Heitman's In WI. I'll paint that and the fuel tank maroon. Do you have a ROPS and a roof on your 7000. Here's Ed's tractor. Tim ------------- 1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207 |
Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 5:55pm
 ------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2 |
Tbone95 wrote:Posted By: Ksdigger
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 9:55pm
| Tim, I have already completed the trans and diff. Ready to put it back together. As far as the trans brake, I will get that adjusted once it's running again. I have an Allis shop manual that spells everything out really well. The best thing I made was a heavy duty cart to hold the housing while working on it. I will try to post a few pics but the pic files are too large. Need to figure out how to resize them. |
Posted By: acnh210
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2019 at 9:08pm
 ------------- Terra Tiger, WD, 7040ps, 8050 with westendorf loader, 8050ps fwa. |
Posted By: acnh210
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2019 at 9:12pm
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I don't post many pictures, obviously. This is a 40 that has the black belly steps, steering wheel and stadium light bar. Had decals custom made. One of my favorites. ------------- Terra Tiger, WD, 7040ps, 8050 with westendorf loader, 8050ps fwa. |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2019 at 9:30pm
| Didn't AC come out with the maroon about the same time Hesston changed from red to brown? Wasn't there some reason? I seem to remember something about lead paint, but that was a long time ago!!! |
Posted By: Ksdigger
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2019 at 4:53pm
| Nice looking tractor. I am enjoying restoring mine. Looking forward to getting it done. |
Posted By: Play Farmer
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 7:43am
I won't shoot you. When I brought mine home I was 100% certain I would be changing it to black. But...the more I worked on it the more the maroon grew on me - I kept it maroon. I think it turned out OK.  |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 9:39am
| Luv the maroon , although at first I did think Allis had ran out of paint when I first seen them but it does grow on you |
Posted By: Alex (wi)
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 12:09pm
| I've always wanted to see an all Orange 7000 series. |
Posted By: Ksdigger
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 3:52pm
 This is the difference 10 years of setting and some sanding can make. |
Posted By: Ksdigger
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 3:56pm
 Ready to put it back together. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 4:08pm
I've thought the same thing.
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Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 4:15pm
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Looking good Jerry. Those two street 90 breather's on the rear end cover. Have a screen in them, both of mine were pretty well plugged w/ crud. I can't get over how easy it is to do the brakes on that tractor. Tim ------------- 1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207 |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 4:27pm
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seeing the hood panel in the background, looks like it's for a black chassis tractor, and the front half looks black already. Are you sure this is a maroon? Does it have a dry clutch in the flywheel, or just a torque limiter setup? ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: Ksdigger
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 5:26pm
| It's a 76 maroon belly. As you can see I changed my mind and going with the black. The decals are black belly that were on it. It was painted really well when it was done previously except for the orange. No hardener and it faded really bad. Nothing against the maroon, just figure i will keep it black. Still might put the correct decals on it if available. |
Posted By: Tim NH
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 7:16pm
I did come across another picture from the Pontiac GOTO. Looks like the one in the rear is 7000. Judging by the engine oil filters. Tim ------------- 1950 WD 1959 D14 1955 WD45 1976 7000 B 207 |
Posted By: acnh210
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2019 at 10:28pm
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Alex, I'm with ya. There had to be an all orange 7000 out there somewhere. May have to paint one that way. Just to find out. ------------- Terra Tiger, WD, 7040ps, 8050 with westendorf loader, 8050ps fwa. |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2019 at 9:12am
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Since you're doing it up in black, which I would too since it's already been painted black, it would definitely look better with the bold black chassis decals. If you put the early decals on, then it will look like it's mismatched, black chassis, with bold decals will look basically original fora late model. You guys talking about an all orange 7000 series (don't think it would look good at all by the way) makes me remember how I always wanted to paint a 190/200 with a black chassis. I spent most of my high school years drawing them and coloring them up like that with colored pencils lol! ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |