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Topic: Cold weather!!!!!!
Posted By: jiminnd
Subject: Cold weather!!!!!!
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 7:23pm
Sitting here looking at my indoor outdoor thermometer, 102 degrees difference from inside to out, and then a 25mile per hour wind too. I know there are some with worse, just try to stay in and stay warm and safe.

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1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner)



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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 8:30pm
Took the next 2 days off. Ain't no seed beans need delivered that bad. Minus 20-40 wind chills depending on where you are.


Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 8:40pm
Originally posted by jiminnd jiminnd wrote:

Sitting here looking at my indoor outdoor thermometer, 102 degrees difference from inside to out, and then a 25mile per hour wind too. I know there are some with worse, just try to stay in and stay warm and safe.

 
Wow! We are about 72 degrees delta ( in to out) , but dropping! Throw another log on the fire!
Regards,
 Chris


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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.


Posted By: DCAC
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 9:27pm
Supposed to get close to -30/-35 air temp, wind chill to -60 tonight, highs in the teens below zero tomorrow.


Posted By: oldways
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 10:09pm
Where are you guys located? Saw on news temps like that in northern states. I'm in Western KY 9° tomorrow for a high. They called off school. Curious what it's like to live where it gets that cold. How deep is the frost line ? How deep do you bury water lines.

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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV


Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 10:11pm
Just hit -30, wind is going down a little, think I will go to bed under my down comforter and stay until morning. Not as windy tomorrow but high in the -20s.

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1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner)


Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 2:24am
If these temps continue there probably will be buried pipes bursting.  Here in MI the suggested depth is 42".  This cold may surpass that is t continues.

Just a reminder to maybe ease some worries.  Wind chill is what it feels like on flesh.  It does not affect structures or other inanimate objects.  Just keep you and all the critters inside as much as possible.  We have feral cats and we brought their shelters into the garage.  We kick them out for awhile during the day and they'll sit on their straw bales in front of the windows cleaning themselves.  I don't understand how that ain't freezing but I guess they are okay.  They all put on a pretty good coat of fur this year.  The male longhairs have manes.


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Posted By: cwhit
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 5:16am
Treated my work semi to about a 50-50 blend yesterday. Doesn’t have to go very far today but it does have to go. Guess I’ve been in worse. It’s just been a while.


Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 6:28am
It is -35 this am in northern MN ( actual temp)  officials are recommending not to breathe deeply when outside to avoid lung damage. They said this is the coldest we have had it in 20 years.  I need to fill the wood box today which means starting the tractor, tractor is inside shop (not heated) I will plug it in for a couple of hours and also build a fire in the wood stove.   Tractor has straight number one fuel in it so will be ok.  This will be my only job for the day.


Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 6:32am
Our Elkhounds are pretty amazing in cold weather, especially the younger ones. It was zero here last night with a pretty good breeze, the year old female was sleeping outside her dog house on the ground. The older one has a heated pad but wont use it until a good bit below zero. They get to come inside in the morning and after a hour they are begging to go back out. Now rain is a differant deal, you cant drag them out when it is raining.


Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 6:34am
We are -31 right now with a wind chill of -51 here in eastern South Dakota.

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Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 6:35am
The wind and low numbers are heading this-a way. Geez, can't wait!   Unhappy

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39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife


Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 7:06am
Originally posted by oldways oldways wrote:

Where are you guys located? Saw on news temps like that in northern states. I'm in Western KY 9° tomorrow for a high. They called off school. Curious what it's like to live where it gets that cold. How deep is the frost line ? How deep do you bury water lines.
     I put a new well in '98 or so ago water lines under drive way were buried 9'   frost gauges are installed around the county near state hiway intersections  12 to 13 ' of frost is not unheard of where traffic drives the frost deeper,


Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 7:27am
I was always told to plan for a friost level of 6 feet when I was growing up in Wisconsin. The last I heard, some were trying to get by burying lines 4 feet down. It was a lot colder back then, it seems. Snow cover tends to keep the frost from going so deep. Don’t worry, it takes several weeks of cold weather to drive the frost deep. In your case of 9 degree weather I doubt the frost would go in but a few inches. Local codes usually require that pipes and wires be buried at least 24 inches even in areas where frost isn’t an issue.


Posted By: oldways
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 9:08am
Originally posted by DougS DougS wrote:

I was always told to plan for a friost level of 6 feet when I was growing up in Wisconsin. The last I heard, some were trying to get by burying lines 4 feet down. It was a lot colder back then, it seems. Snow cover tends to keep the frost from going so deep. Don’t worry, it takes several weeks of cold weather to drive the frost deep. In your case of 9 degree weather I doubt the frost would go in but a few inches. Local codes usually require that pipes and wires be buried at least 24 inches even in areas where frost isn’t an issue.

I'm not worried about it freezing here. I'm a plumber and HVAC guy. We bury lines 36". Just curious what you guys do. I know of at least two lines feeding houses that are exposed crossing ditches on two different farms. People don't want to do anything about it. Crazy.

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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV


Posted By: oldways
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 9:18am
Typical KY weather. It's going to be 60 here Sunday.

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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV


Posted By: D17Milo
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 9:58am
Some plces here in Iowa there is no mail being delivered today.


Posted By: Reindeer
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 10:01am
Standard practice here to put all water lines 8 ft down.  Winters have not been as hard as we used to see for the last 10 years, but still digging them in.

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Posted By: Hockeyman
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 10:16am
We have had -50 c with the wind for the past two days... Daytime highs of -35c to -40c. School has been cancelled two days in a row now...

Too cold for my liking


Posted By: rrhead(SD)
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:02am


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Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:24am
Water lines here are 10 ft deep. Heat taped and insulated where they come up into house. I don't have a basement the water table is to high. Crslw space walls have 2 in styrofoam glued on it never gets below freezing in crawl space.


Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:28am
I'm sitting in the house because I closed the shop for today, I know it's not as cold here in West central Mo.as it is North of me but at -06 for the low I'm cold. I know that's not cold to you northern guys but it is to me.
So my question to you guys up North is just how cold is to cold for you? lol
I'm not going to start a tractor today for "all the gold in Fort Knocks " lmao 


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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.



Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:36am
I have never understood how birds don't literally lose their feet/legs in this cold... toothpick-thin, I can't imagine a blood supply sufficient to keep them warm let alone able to freely move them. Ditto deer hooves. Just northwest of us, the Tug Hill Plateau is going to get another 3 feet over the next few days. Winter is merciless, depending on where "winter" is.

My sister just texted me with something her building manager told her - keep thermostats set at 68 degrees because setting them lower will overwork the boiler/furnace. We always keep ours between 64-66 degrees. Can anyone confirm or refute this? oldways? <--- funny, that's my username on a few other forums.


Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:43am
Tim: Lowering the setting of a thermostat does not over work the furnace. Think about it, if , the temp is 40F outside and you set the thermostat inside at 41F, the furnace hardly works. But set it at say, 95F, the furnace will work a lot to maintain the temperature. Now regarding safe guarding freezing the pipes in the house, the higher the setting the better as most houses have cold spots and it you have any piping on an outside wall, it is usually more prone to freeze vs being in an inside wall of a house.

Heat loss goes up the greater the differential temperature is between the inside and outside temperature is.


Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 12:08pm
Thanks Stan. It didn't quite set right with me, but there are many "right" things that are counterintuitive so I thought I'd ask. What I texted back to my sister is that it sounded like he was on the payroll of the natural gas supplier lol, similar to what happens when there's an ice storm and trees/powerlines are down, and the price of chainsaws and generators triple.


Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 12:22pm
Don for me if it doesn't get above 0* F   for the high of the day it's too cold for me to heat the shop.   I am retired so it mostly is for "play"   Today however I need more firewood moved to the house so will do that. My shop has both wood and gas (propane) heat but will only fire the wood stove for about three hours.   I havent worked out there for several days and the temp in there was +7*F before starting the fire. The tractor will start with just plugging it in but I like the idea of having the fuel in tank a little warmer before heading out in - 20's .  Job will only take about 10 min. and then tractor will be back inside.   I mite be over cautious but when I ran semis I would always bring new fuel filters and one gallon of fuel kept in the cab in case of a jell up problem. Temps like this really become about survival.


Posted By: Grwhthunter
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 1:18pm
Just got done working outside on the farm. -5 out with a windchill of-27. Could only work 6 1/2 hours. I have carhartt arctic bibs and chore coat , expedition weight poly pro thermals and good gloves and hat. New muck artic boots and wool socks. I still got cold. The horses,ponies,goats and cats were all outside. I can’t believe they didn’t stay in. They acted like it wasn’t a big deal. A few times when I was driving the rhino the wind really gusted and I couldn’t breathe. Top speed was about 12 miles a hour. Any faster and I’d a froze. I don’t know how people can stay out there in the areas that are colder. I just can’t seem to take the cold anymore. I’m glad I’m not in those areas that are real cold. Good thing is I came in and my wife made homemade soup. I’m so blessed and lucky. Everyone stay warm !


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 2:28pm
Don, I don't blame you a bit for staying in the house! I think it's about -15 here now. The older I get, the more cantankerous I am about having to work in the cold. -24 last night after work and my battery died. Spent the night 31 miles from home. Friend/coworker helped me get a new one and get truck going today. Not going in tonight!

I don't mind doing outside work in the cold if the wind isn't howling but don't like having to fix mechanical things. 


Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 2:40pm
Earlier today, it got to -12F with -30 with 15-20mph wind chill. It’s been a sunny day though & now 2:14pm it’s warmed up to 0F & -16 wind chill. Always bury water lines to 36” minimum. Forecast is calling for 44F by Friday, then 56F Sunday & 60F Monday. Personally, I’d rather see it stay below freezing for at least 7-10 days. Then field’s freeze line gets deeper (18-24”?) which helps break up any soil compaction. Nature’s cold is the best soil ripper. Brother does field tiling & excavation, so he always tells me depth of frost line in our area. He says soil frost line is 9-10” now.


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 6:18pm
Just caught a blurb on one of our news stations (FOX 9) to turn down thermostat to 63 degrees, this after reporting that northern MN near Princeton has lost natural gas service. Gas company says working to get them gas hopefully by tomorrow afternoon.  A interviewed customer guessing broken pipe. Why does everyone else need to turn down heat unless they are afraid they will not have enough to make it? I don't know maybe I missed something.

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1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp


Posted By: Travis2766
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 6:58pm

Think the picture says it all! This isn’t including the 20 mph winds outside of my truck. Think the real feel temperature was around 50 below.

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190XT Series III, D17 Series IV, D15 Series II, All Crop 66 and a whole mess of equipment.


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 8:31pm
Originally posted by D17Milo D17Milo wrote:

Some plces here in Iowa there is no mail being delivered today.
They said on national TV that ALL of Iowa, MN, and WI would NOT have ANY mail today.  First time in ALL my life this has been done!  CRAZY!!

Originally posted by chaskaduo chaskaduo wrote:

Just caught a blurb on one of our news stations (FOX 9) to turn down thermostat to 63 degrees, this after reporting that northern MN near Princeton has lost natural gas service. Gas company says working to get them gas hopefully by tomorrow afternoon.  A interviewed customer guessing broken pipe. Why does everyone else need to turn down heat unless they are afraid they will not have enough to make it? I don't know maybe I missed something.
  Yesterday on our news they said to turn the thermostat UP two degrees.... One of the daughters called me all worried about it and I told her to do what she wants, but that I've never done anything no matter what happens outside.

It's cold, it's cold..... it never bothers me how cold it is, but when the wind is blowing,,,,,that I don't like.

We're a bunch of crazy guys, we play with water when it's this cold.  We really don't like to, but we have to put the fire out.  So be nice to a Firefighter and be careful and don't start any fires....PLEASE...


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Posted By: allis g
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 8:56pm
Ok I feel for you guys. NOT,!   I was building fence on the hill today had to take my sweatshirt off got too warm musta been 65 here today


Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 9:02pm
On the news they said if you live in an older house you should run the temp up because if the outside temp starts to effect you house your furnace will never be able to recover.  We are sitting here in 74* right now.  Sweet!


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D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446


Posted By: jiminnd
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 9:25pm
Well, -26 again tonite. Not a lot of wind today but only got to -20. I feel for the guys who have livestock to take care of, did that til 2010, it was real interesting back in the 90s with no shop for tractor, always able to get the cows fed, everyone be safe again.

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1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner)


Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 9:33pm
Water mains in Des Moines broke today and in a couple other small towns.

Gerald J.


Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 10:19pm
It was 37 above when I came home from a meeting a few minutes before 9 pm.  Last night it was about 12 at the same time, near 0 over night, 60's over the next few days but still in the 20's at night.


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Posted By: oldways
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:14pm
Waterlines 10ft deep. -50 wind-chill. No thanks! You guys can keep it. Had a uncle lived in Lakeland FL. Lived in a slab house. Waterlines ran just below ground around the outside of the house and came up out of the ground into the kitchen sink. Completely exposed. Crazy how different things can be a few days drive apart.

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1 Corinthians 1:18 1969-190xt-III. 1966 190xt gas. 1966 190xt Cab. 1948-G. 1937-WC unstyled. 1950-B. 1951-CA. 1966-D17-IV


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:55pm
21 below right now, predicting minus 28 for the morning low. Still have gas , thermostat at 73 degrees. Hunkered down and headin fer

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1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp


Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 1:25am
Every cellphone in MI received a text today from the gas company requesting everyone turn their thermostats down to 65 due to some incident, to ensure the flow of gas continues.

I saw on the news that Pacific Gas and Power is filing for voluntary bankruptcy due to the losses of equipment to the wildfires. 

Maybe it's time someone steps up and forces the money grubbing top executives in these companies that it's time to start repairing and replacing their infrastructure.


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D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446


Posted By: Kiwi
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 2:05am
Hope you all keep warm and safe after seeing how cold it is in the states I am not going to complain about the heat we are having 80F + most of this week so far stay safe


Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 6:08am
yeah aint this 'global warming' nice ???  -6*F  here and NO, Cloudy ain't going outside. Got me an IR temp gun and walls are 45*, back door 19* F ! gotta install new seals..later....NOT today.
Had an Aunt lived in Frostproof,Fl. Thought it funny when she said 50 was 'chilly'.
should be warmer on Monday...

Jay


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Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)

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Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 6:14am
Well -42*F  here this morning, I'm sitting about six feet from the wood stove and will stay there most of the day.    They say worst is over and warm weather is coming.


Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 6:45am
25 degrees here this morning . That's plenty cold enough for me . Gonna be about 50 degrees this afternoon . I like that . Hope everyone stays safe and warm .


Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 7:04am
-25 this morning in Cedar Rapids. Don't think we hit the all-time low they were predicting. Not terribly upset about that. My biggest issue is the blowing and drifting. Stuck in drift yesterday and thankfully the 7060 was in a warm shop and ready to go.Diesel pickup started, wasn't even plugged in but I left it home anyway. Lotta dead trucks along the road this morning.


Posted By: BradH
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 3:20pm
It was -20 yesterday when I got up.  Was really glad I had the day off.  Part of my job involvs taking out customers groceries so I'm in and out of the heat and cold all day long.  The Pepsi truck driver and I decide the other day that the cold is to blame for us feeling so worn out lately.  Not sure if it's true but it sounds good.  I finally broke down and started wearing my jacket to go outside at work last Thursday.  I don't like  to do it though, to hot inside and it makes everything harder to do.  Everybody be safe out there.
Later,
Brad


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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2019 at 9:51pm
If it is confirmed (by whom I don't know) Mount Carroll. Illinois set a new State Low this morning at -38*F    It was -33 here according to the local news. my Accuwrong weather station is never quite right, been reading bout 4 * high, said -27 for the overnight low. 
 It don't much matter to me what the number is if there is a minus in front of it.
 It DOES matter if the wind is blowing 40 MPH. Luckily, we had less wind last night than the 2 previous days.
 They are saying mid to upper 40's by Sunday Wacko


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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 7:13am
Yesterday morning it was -34˚F at my house and -39˚F at my brother's house. I don't know what the windchill was. They pulled snow trucks off the road and most city buses due to fuel gelling issues.


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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 8:17am
According to the Excel Energy gas company web site it was a gas shortage in the Princeton, MN area. 150-60 people put up in hotels etc. Gas should be back on by now it sounds like. I wonder how many pipes froze, how many burst, and who's responsible. Of course there's electric heaters, but how many people have enough of em to heat the entire house where the plumbing is out of sight, and safely. I haven't heard of any injuries, deaths, frozen pipes, or fires from it on the news. Still is it a natural disaster (cold) or man  made (gas shortage)?

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1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp


Posted By: BrianC
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 9:12am
How do you heat your houses in the northern-midwest?
I live on Long Island. A common system here is oil fired hot water boiler. Many places are able to get natural gas from the utility. This is considered to be cheaper, so people have converted to natural gas. Propane is used for cooking, maybe the hot water and dryer, as main heating fuel, not so much. Heat pumps are sometimes used, however our electric rate is $0.21/kwh.  When I lived in California, natural gas furnace and water heater was the norm. In the boon docks or on the mountains, they used propane.

So take a place like Hutchinson MN. Is it natural gas to heat your house? How about in the boondocks, propane?





Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 9:44am
I have a natural gas fired hot water boiler and a wood fired hot water boiler I plumbed together and can use one or the other by flipping two switches and turning  three valves. House was originally built in 1914 with a coal fired gravity octopus furnace. Across the street on one block a private road, they all have oil fired heat. Some of my neighbors have heat exchanger fireplace inserts also. I'm in a burb of SW Mpls. so most is natural gas. My water heater is also natural gas and I didn't plumb it thru the wood boiler at the time, but I still can if I wanted.

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1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp


Posted By: NDBirdman
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 10:32am
One 500 gallon propane tank for heat.  Hot water tank is elec.  A fireplace on both levels of the house.  When the temps get down below zero, the first floor fireplace runs 24/7.  Keeps the house (both floors) easily over 72 degrees, rarely does the gas furnace come on except at night when I don't feel like getting up in the middle of the night to stoke the fire.  Firewood (free, sorta) only cost time and fuel for chainsaws and truck to haul it.


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Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 11:06am
Electric fireplace in the living room.LP gas furnace forced air. Wood stove in the basement with fan plumbed into the ductwork. Got -18 yesterday with high winds and the furnace only kicked on 2 times. 73 in the house. Dog came in and laid on her rug most of the day. She looked happy.Glad Im semi retireded.   I AINT going out in the shop!!

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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 7:46pm
Some around here have Natural gas lines running nearby and heat with it. Most I know in this area of NW IL use LP gas for heat. I use LP for back up, but most of my heat comes from a corn burner connected to the gas furnace piping.


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Posted By: Gary in da UP
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 7:59pm
Kinda reminds me of Jimmy" peanut" Carter in a sweater telling us to "chill out"and dial down during one of his fireside chats back when he graced the white house.  


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 11:34pm
A few years ago the money grubbers had a loss of trucks to bring LP up to the midwest so the price skyrocketed.  It hasn't gone back down to previous levels,,,,,,,,imagine that.  Used to cost $0.87 (or less) per gallon.  Now the NORMAL price is right around $1.40 per.

Now there is some problems with machinery in MI and MN. causing a "shortage", so please turn your thermostat down.  Where the hell is that going to make any difference?  Another measure to charge more for natural gas??  I don't doubt it.  Same thing happens with regular gas, gotta shut down for SCHEDULED maintenance,,,,,,ergo the price goes up at the pump.  Sorry, we can't do anything about it.....


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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2019 at 11:37pm
Originally posted by john(MI) john(MI) wrote:

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John, I like your new avatar!  Who did you get to pose for it?  I wanna meet her.  I need to discuss something with her. LOL


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