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Topic: Still Stripping
Posted By: CrestonM
Subject: Still Stripping
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 6:21pm
Been custom stripping cotton again this weekend. Got another 300-400 acres to keep us busy through March probably. The guy I'm working for has three newer 880s he runs, and one has over 6,600 actual hours. It's a little loose, but cleans as well as a new one. 
Here's a video of my 1975 860. I let another guy from the crew run it for a bit while I shot some footage. It's not the best, and I had him strip a little slower than usual so I could keep up without shaking the camera too much, although I don't know if that did much good, as it's still a little shaky at times. 
Doing custom work to pay off the machine, and so far so good. Hope you guys like it. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QAONNciq4k" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QAONNciq4k



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Posted By: Jim Hancock
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 6:25pm
Creston, either the link has a kink or my computer does. It's not playing.You may want to check on it.

Maybe one too many https:// ?




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Posted By: Reindeer
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 6:31pm
I stripped off the first https:// and it worked.  Looks good.  

How tall is the cotton?  I grew some when I worked in Peru, and it was about 4 ft tall.  This looks to be a lot shorter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QAONNciq4k%20" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QAONNciq4k


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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 6:41pm
Got the link fixed. Thanks for the heads up. 
Reindeer, ideally it's just over knee high, but it varies field to field. The day after I filmed that we were in some bottom ground and that stuff was pretty tall, just over waist high on me. The broadcast headers the Allis machines use are primarily for short cotton, although with the right mods I've heard of them stripping cotton 5' tall. That's not much fun though, as the reels tend to break the tall stalks apart, and running the whole plant through the machine isn't very efficient. You can remove the front reel for tall cotton, as well as remove some of the reel fingers to make the stripping less aggressive in the tall cotton. Usually in SW Oklahoma though we are short on water, so the plants don't get that tall anyway. 

The field in the video was very sorry, and full of waist-high tumbleweeds. We found one clean spot for filming. The guy that farms it needs a cultivator I guess. We got the job because the first custom crew composed of new $750,000 Deere strippers couldn't strip it with all the weeds. They use row unit headers and weeds plug them up bad. The reels on these broadcast headers kinda chop the weeds up and they usually go through the machine alright. 

If we were stripping this field in October like it should've been done, the field would be stripped perfectly clean. By now a lot of the lint is stringing out of the bolls and falling on the ground. 


Posted By: Reindeer
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 6:47pm
I spent a couple years as an advisor at a Canadian government development project in the Amazon basin in Eastern Peru, and we grew a few acres of cotton one year.  Everything after seeding  was done by hand.  This looks like a lot more fun!

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Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 7:21pm
Seems like a lot still remaining in the field.

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Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 7:57pm
BTW, ya did good with the camera

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Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 8:15pm
must bee some laying on the ground allready but i have never seen  a cotton feild .   that machine looks to be in nice condition


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 8:40pm
Thanks. Yes, it should've been stripped in October/November, but it wasn't. Over the past few months rain, wind, and snow have caused quite a bit to fall onto the ground, hence the reason some is left behind. If it was stripped in season, the field would be bare. 

The machine is real nice. I haven't learned the whole story yet, but I basically bought it from a guy who bought it from the original owner, then used it one season, and decided he wanted a newer Deere. To each their own. 

Quite a bit of paint is still in the header, as well as the trash discharge chutes, which marks it as a low hour machine. That's very rare for such an old machine. Most 860s were rode hard, put away wet, and are now sitting in fence rows. I only know of 3 other running 860s in the state, but 880s are more plentiful. I need to find out the rest of the story and why it wasn't used much over the last 44 years. 


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 8:52pm
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 10:12pm
That's a great video, Creston.  Of course that brings up some questions from this northerner.  Do you charge by the acre or amount of harvested cotton and because of the rain and show, is the value of the cotton reduced very much?  Oh, and how did you happen to get in the cotton harvesting business?


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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 10:50pm
Originally posted by JohnCO JohnCO wrote:

That's a great video, Creston.  Of course that brings up some questions from this northerner.  Do you charge by the acre or amount of harvested cotton and because of the rain and show, is the value of the cotton reduced very much?  Oh, and how did you happen to get in the cotton harvesting business?

Grandpa started farming cotton in 1954, so it’s always been a family affair. I’ve been riding in his 880s since I was about two years old. However, I never actually got to run one until this year when I got my own machine, oddly enough. I’ve just been a mechanic until now. I’m doing custom work now mainly to pay off this machine, but also because it’s really the only way I get to do much real farming, as I’m edged out of the family farm.

Usually we charge by the pound, about $0.10/lb. unless the field is yielding really poorly, then it’s about $40 per acre. The lint is basically unharmed staying in the field this long, it just makes stripping a little less efficient.


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2019 at 11:56pm
Nice looking machine, but I don't know a cotton picken thing about them. Are they called combines, pickers, strippers (like that last one), or harvesters? She Looks like she'll pay for herself they way she's going at it in the video.

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Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 5:26am
Nice! As a New Englander though, I know absolutely nothing about cotton (planting, harvesting, climate required for growing, etc). I'm impressed


Posted By: Butch(OH)
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 5:45am
Thanks for that, a lot of us have never been around cotton.


Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 6:36am
Interesting;   First time I've seen a machine like that in action.    BTW you did a great job videoing as we all know it's not easy walking along side a moving machine out in a field and holding a camera.   Thanks Creston!!


Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 7:49am
Well Creston, I know you did use "still stripping" as your subject line, and not expect to get someone to take it the wrong way. So I'll be the smart a$$ here. Do you come home from a long day of stripping with a lot of dollar bills......? Sorry, couldn't resist. Keep up the good work. Better than being out drinking and getting in trouble. Darrel


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 7:57am
Originally posted by darrel in ND darrel in ND wrote:

Well Creston, I know you did use "still stripping" as your subject line, and not expect to get someone to take it the wrong way. So I'll be the smart a$$ here. Do you come home from a long day of stripping with a lot of dollar bills......? Sorry, couldn't resist. Keep up the good work. Better than being out drinking and getting in trouble. Darrel
Haha! I wish, but no. We don't get paid until the cotton is picked up from the field, taken to the cotton gin, and ginned out. So could be this summer, as the local gins are all backed up with months of work. After they remove the rest of the foreign matter and seeds from the cotton, we get a report back on how many clean lint pounds there are, and we get paid according to that. 


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 7:58am
Originally posted by chaskaduo chaskaduo wrote:

Nice looking machine, but I don't know a cotton picken thing about them. Are they called combines, pickers, strippers (like that last one), or harvesters? She Looks like she'll pay for herself they way she's going at it in the video.
Cotton strippers. 


Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 11:06am
Strippers it is.  I knew a stripper when I was younger, never worked with her though. I don't think she strips any more, all worn out.

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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 6:04pm
What's the beer bottle under the air cleaner, for?Wink


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 6:45pm
Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

What's the beer bottle under the air cleaner, for?Wink
The ether system? PO installed it. 


Posted By: ACmowerguy
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 6:53pm
Nice vid. Thought an AC cotton picker was quite a rarity.

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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2019 at 7:24pm
Originally posted by ACmowerguy ACmowerguy wrote:

Nice vid. Thought an AC cotton picker was quite a rarity.
A cotton picker is. Cotton strippers are common.


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 7:20am
OK, I'll ask,,,,,,,,,,,what's the difference between a stripper and a picker?

(Answer... a stripper makes a lot of money taking her clothes off and a picker uses his/her nose a lot............... Or in the case of Roy Clark, he's just grinnin)  COULD NOT RESIST!!!

A picker cuts the whole plant off?j

NICE Video Creston!!  I didn't notice any shaking going on either.  This is the FIRST time I've ever seen it being done!  THANKS 'LiL' Buddy!!

Oh yeah, waist high to you is close to 4' I'd guess....


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Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 7:26am
Wondered the same question. How much money was left in the field by not harvesting on time? Do you charge more because of the waste? Nice to see someone can use their equipment and make a couple of bucks. (Hopefully more than a couple)

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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 8:15am
you need to wear yer pashonate pink thong while you strip! that field don't looks muddy enough for you to do that there! (poke,poke)


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 10:44am
Originally posted by Ted J Ted J wrote:

OK, I'll ask,,,,,,,,,,,what's the difference between a stripper and a picker?

(Answer... a stripper makes a lot of money taking her clothes off and a picker uses his/her nose a lot............... Or in the case of Roy Clark, he's just grinnin)  COULD NOT RESIST!!!

A picker cuts the whole plant off?j

NICE Video Creston!!  I didn't notice any shaking going on either.  This is the FIRST time I've ever seen it being done!  THANKS 'LiL' Buddy!!

Oh yeah, waist high to you is close to 4' I'd guess....

A stripper strips (hence the name) everything off the stalk, leaving just bare branches. A picker only picks the lint, leaving the burrs, leaves, etc. behind. A picker yields a cleaner product, but has an overwhelming number of parts per row unit and costs a lot more to operate and maintain. 

Allis explains the two pretty well in these videos. 

Cotton picker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wVgpPFu9rc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wVgpPFu9rc

Cotton Stripper. Early on there were 2 types...one with and without the burr extractor. Shortly after this film was made the burr extractor became standard equipment, because they do such a good job of cleaning the cotton. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87JWqCG9iZY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87JWqCG9iZY


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 10:50am
Originally posted by mdm1 mdm1 wrote:

Wondered the same question. How much money was left in the field by not harvesting on time? Do you charge more because of the waste? Nice to see someone can use their equipment and make a couple of bucks. (Hopefully more than a couple)
I'm not sure how much was left, probably a couple bales on the ground (a bale is 500 lb), and cotton is selling about 68 cents/lb, so maybe $680 worth. That's $68 we as custom harvesters lost, so not bad. 
We don't charge more when it's on the ground, the producer just loses out. 

They used to have a machine called a Rood that would go along and pick up cotton lying between the rows in much the same way a baler picks up hay. Never seen one in person, though, just internet photos. They worked alright I guess, but they also picked up whatever else trash was on the ground, which was one reason they fell out of popularity. 


Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:25am
I guess it just looked like alot of cotton in the field. But I know more about cotton harvesting now! Before all I knew was it was white and you made underwear!! Thanks CrestonM.

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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 11:59am
Here's a video from IH about their picker which uses a drum-type picker, in comparison to a Deere/Rust/Allis/Ben Pearson cotton picker. Slightly different mechanism, but same end result. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA8UNix5nBQ&t=0s&index=2&list=LL-IQUxMxb9SHRf4vdPMLaMw" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA8UNix5nBQ&t=0s&index=2&list=LL-IQUxMxb9SHRf4vdPMLaMw


Posted By: JPG AUSTRALIA
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 4:56pm
Thanks for sharing,great video.Your doing well Creston,keep it up👍


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 8:10pm
Yep, he's doing a bang up job alright!  Keep it up! 👍 👍
Creston knows more about combines at his age than I did,,,,,or still do!  BUT, I knew more about milk cows I'd bet! Big smile


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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2019 at 8:25pm
Originally posted by Ted J Ted J wrote:

BUT, I knew more about milk cows I'd bet! Big smile
Yep! 


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2019 at 8:46pm
I guess I should've thought about this before I made the first video, but since I've noticed there's some interest in how cotton strippers work, I made an "enhanced" and condensed version showing a brief clip from the Allis 707 XTB video (Courtesy of the guys at J and L Videos and "The Allis-Chalmers Archive Project") The clip shows what goes on once the cotton gets inside the machine, mainly how the burr extractor works, but if you've seen their 707 XTB video, then you won't see anything new. I just put 2 and 2 together to make it easier for others to see it all at once. 
Anyway, here's the new video. The new content starts at the 0:40 mark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZC1nukiYfA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZC1nukiYfA


Posted By: Armand(AZ)
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 8:23am
Creston, thanks for taking the time to video your 880 in action!!  Like the others, I learned a lot from it.  AND, I now think I could build a model of it with the stripper head.  I have looked at the picker heads when visiting the Coons here in AZ but thought it would be tough to model them.   The stripper head would be pretty easy.  Would you have any videos of the unit when dumping???   I would like to see how that linkage works.   Or if you know of a video that shows it, let me know where to find it.     Thanks again!!  Armand


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 10:29am
Armand, I think it would be really neat to make a model of either an 860 or 880 with the broadcast stripper header.

Here’s a video I made last year of an 880, and there’s some footage of it dumping. I can get you photos of my 860 with the basket up, and the linkage is identical. The only difference is the 880 has 2-way basket cylinders, whereas the early 860 has 1-way cylinders, which isn’t always desirable.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dapHngy_NrI" rel="nofollow - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dapHngy_NrI


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 6:20pm


Posted By: wheatbreeder
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2019 at 6:53pm
thanks for the video, very interesting as i have no knowledge about cotton harvest here in sw Ontario 
very informative 


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Posted By: wekracer
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2019 at 6:03am
You gotta love those old strippers that keep on working past their prime. They may not be the prettiest but they are still earning a living.


Posted By: robb
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2019 at 6:38pm
We had an AC 801 Cotton Picker in the late 60's and early 70's that had a basket that looked just like the one pictured. If I remember correctly it held 2000 lbs of cotton, which would result in a 500-600 lb bale of lint when ginned.



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