Costco going in the chicken business
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Topic: Costco going in the chicken business
Posted By: nella(Pa)
Subject: Costco going in the chicken business
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 1:09pm
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Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 3:32pm
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If they build a plant that processes 2 million birds a week then that will be a MASSIVE plant and they will have to have hundreds of farms to keep it going. I think she meant to say 2 million POUNDS. That's doable. If my memory serves me right, the Pilgrim plant we grow for processes around 400,000 birds a week and that averages 1.8 million pounds a week. I think they have 80 or so farms averaging, I'm guessing, 5 to 6 houses per farm. ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: tomNE
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 6:32pm
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costco numbers around here are quoted at 4 houses per farm and around 110 farms, per processing plant. ------------- AC from the start of my families farming career till the end! |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 7:03pm
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Any idea what size houses? Ours are going to be 50x600 and will house about 39,000 birds each. If they're building 4 per farm and 110 farms per plant them it's definitely 2 million pounds per week ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 7:33pm
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Most new houses being built here are between 42 feet wide and 66 feet wide. I've heard of some experimental houses being built in Alabama that are 80 feet wide. They say once you get in the 60 foot range it's almost impossible to get ventalation in the center of the house. That's why Pilgrim won't let us go over 50 feet. What kind of temps do you Nebraska folks see? ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2019 at 11:40pm
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Hot in the summer, cold in the winter! ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 2:00am
| our winter temps can/has been down to 18 degrees below and as high as 120 plus on the other end. Cosco is building that plant about 30 miles from me, there are a few houses still being built a few miles in all directions of me, a lot of the houses were shot down by the city bots and county board. I reported the sizes of them in an earlier post, but don't remember right now on that. I was surprised that they are all being made out of wood, no steel buildings. Cosco had to work hard to let them build that plant here. no one wanted them here. I have a gut feeling that there's gonna be trouble down the road after everything is built and operating. |
Posted By: PaulW(NE)
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 4:22am
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Going to have 2 setups within 5 miles of where I live. One will have 190000 birds and another with 380000 birds. Each barn is supposed to hold 47500 birds each. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 7:46am
| wonder how many times there will be recalls on chicky meat from them? no offence to you TYler, but it seems when there are large factory farming of any type meat producing, usually a disgruntled employee somewhere in the start to finish line will ruin a lot of meat. |
Posted By: tomNE
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 8:05am
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Costco came and gave the sales pitch to our local farmers. The numbers wouldn't line up for me. About the time that it's paid for, it's all worn out. Basicly no spreadable manure for 5yrs, if your looking at value added options. No use of your farm products for feed as it comes from costco feed mill. Not really enuff income to have a fulltime employee (someone has to be in that house working 365 days a year). It just didn't add up in my book. ------------- AC from the start of my families farming career till the end! |
Posted By: nella(Pa)
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 8:54am
I have been in farming for a long time and the numbers never ever added up. Anyone that wants to disagree, I have a farm to sell that you can try it on!
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tomNE wrote:Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 8:59am
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With temps that extreme they're going to have a hard time paying gas and electric bills. tomNE, you should have litter to spread in the first year. Absolutely no reason it should take 5 years. I'm betting they'll be selling whole fryers meaning about 35 days in the grow cycle then a couple of weeks off/time to get ready. It's not a 365 job. Especially if they're antibiotic free. The biggest hurdle I see is the temps. If any of you guys have any info on the construction and equipment I'd like to see it just to see how others do it ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 9:01am
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Also, if any of you guys are considering it I'd be happy to give some insight. I've been around it a day or two (about 30 years to be exact) ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2019 at 9:14am
Heard that.
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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 9:39am
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I can forsee a couple of new depts. at Costco. One will be the Kirkland Brand 'Pillow Dept.', pillows stuffed with their very own Chicken feathers. Another will be their own Kirkland Brand dog and catfood, made with their very own 'chicken meat byproducts'. Wonder how many tons of chicken manure will be produced 'daily', and what will it be used for? Gary |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 11:56am
| they'll prolly come grab it and bag it for sale |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 1:55pm
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When we take out the caked litter we get roughly 50 to 60 tons I guess. Usually it's around 7 weeks between clean outs. Ours is a small farm. About 72,000 birds. We spread it on pastures and hay fields for fertilizer. ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 2:45pm
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yeesh 50 to 60 TONS !!! gives a whole new meaning to being 'chickensheet' !! gotta be a GREAT market for that as compost I'd think. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 4:29pm
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Didn't Arkansas have a chicken shhhheeet problem at one time with it spread all over. https://www.animallaw.info/article/arkansas-which-comes-first-chicken-or-environment" rel="nofollow - https://www.animallaw.info/article/arkansas-which-comes-first-chicken-or-environment ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: wide
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 4:59pm
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Maybe they will raise chickens the right way: https://mainstreetproject.org/" rel="nofollow - https://mainstreetproject.org/ |
Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 5:31pm
WOW Main Street Project $13 - $16 a chicken, definitely right for someone. 
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Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 6:22pm
| I don't get the "no usable manure for 5 years". We have a very large chicken farm outside town. Those birds started crapping as soon as they were put in the buildings. Pits were full within a year. They now dry it down and market it that way, store it in separate facility. I have used it in hay ground in February. It will grow some assume hay |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 8:15pm
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If you left litter in for 5 years you'd have feet rather than inches. Ideal depth is 6 to 10 inches. That depth is good insulation in the winter with plenty of drying potential but not deep enough to produce significant heat in the summer. When these houses were cleaned out to the dirt we put in 4 to 5 inches of fresh saw dust and added maybe an inch or so every time we cleaned out for the next 4 to 5 flocks. Now it's deep enough we can clean out the cake without adding any dust. ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |