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175 front axle load rating

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Topic: 175 front axle load rating
Posted By: allisbred
Subject: 175 front axle load rating
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 6:36am
Does anyone know the max weight load recommended for the front axle on a 175 (1970 model w/170 style front end)?thank you, Kevin



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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 7:11am
There is no rating from the manufacturer. You'll figure it out when you start breaking spindles and have wheels get loose on the hubs.


Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 9:25am
That’s what I’m trying to avoid. Moving approx 1000lbs round bales around on an Allis 400 loader and am thinking about adding a quick change to the loader. I do have the loader mounted towards the back of the tractor, helping to shift the load towards the rear wheels a little. Is the “week point” the front end pivot or the axles? I don’t know if anyone has ever dropped the front, but have seen several axle failures. I always thought that they just were not tightened enough due to poor maintenance, may just have been over loaded I suppose.


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 9:32am
If you keep the axle width as narrow as possible, I highly doubt you will ever fail the axle structure itself. The weakest points are spindles and loose wheel bolts. Driving slow and run the tires a little soft help tremendously in reducing shock loads to the axle parts.


Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 9:46am
I didn’t think about the width so much but believe that is a very good point as I have them moved out a bit now to straddle wind rows. I only mainly use the loader on this tractor, think I’ll move them in over the winter. Thanks for your advice, Kevin


Posted By: Ron(AB)
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 1:47pm
How about putting bigger (wider) tires on the front so it will ride smoother with the bale on?

We've done that on a couple of tractors and it made a big difference.


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 1:54pm
That helps too, but 30 lbs of air versus 50 lbs helps a ton.


Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 2:22pm
If you're only carrying 1 bale at a time you might want to put a bale spear on the back to
carry the bale to the place you need to use the loader on it.Or if you carry 2 at once always
have one on the back when you put one on the loader that will take weight off the front end too.


Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 2:50pm
I have 9.5l 15’s on the 175 currently, next size is 11’s like I have on the 185, little too tall as this sits up now in the front having 18.4 28’s on the rear, good thought though. Most of the time, I’m pulling a bale wagon as I go unless I have another driver. I try not to dance all over the fields with a bale hanging on the front, though it does happen. It’s always nice to see everyone’s opinion on how to handle chores, never stop learning a little. Thanks all! Kevin   


Posted By: allisbred
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 2:59pm
I have 9.5l 15’s on the 175 currently, next size is 11’s like I have on the 185, little too tall as this sits up now in the front having 18.4 28’s on the rear, good thought though. Most of the time, I’m pulling a bale wagon as I go unless I have another driver. I try not to dance all over the fields with a bale hanging on the front, though it does happen. It’s always nice to see everyone’s opinion on how to handle chores, never stop learning a little. Thanks all! Kevin   


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 3:37pm
I've had two Customers over the years break a 180 and 185 in half right under the fuel tank from carrying one on front and one on the back. They were more than 1,000 pound bales tho.


Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 4:05pm
I've been doing it with my 180 for years but then again I don't drive very fast over rough ground either which i would think would cause more damage than anything.What would be the difference on having a bale on the back as opposed to having any other type of weight(s)
on the rear of the tractor?


Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 7:57pm
...the leverage of the 3 pt waaaaay back behind the axle


Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2018 at 8:10pm
That torque tube is kind of a weak point with heavy weights like described or saddle tanks. I know of two 200 tractors that broke in half in my area years ago. Actually they cracked.

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