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Topic: Bench Vice Screw
Posted By: DanC911
Subject: Bench Vice Screw
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 9:38am
I know that this is a little off topic but my cousin purchased an antique bench vice screw at a flea market figuring he could find the nut.  After searching he learned it is an Acme thread so he ordered a 1-inch nut from a supplier on Long Island.  It didn't fit so he ordered the next size larger and it didn't fit.

By chance he brought it to a hydraulic shop and they showed him that it is a 2 lead or 2 start thread.  It has 2 parallel threads on it which is why it would not start in any of the nuts he tried. 

The Long Island supplier does not carry them.  I was hoping that someone on the forum might have one they can spare.  If you do here are the specs:
  • Diameter is 1 1/16" measured with a caliper
  • Stamped with "40-1 1/8" on flange
  • Pitch = 4 tpi
  • 2 LEAD or START screw!!!!
  • Made a long time ago by the Chicago Tool company!
Anything you can find out the nuts for this will be greatly appreciated!!!!!! Photos to follow!!! Thanks a ton


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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 10:02am
I Googled "lead screw nut" and lots of info and sales places came up. Try it you'll like it.

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Posted By: allisrutledge
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 10:28am
Dan, a good machine shop is his best bet. Will cost a lot but is possible. I know a guy on here but he would kill me!!! Hope he's got a good friend with a shop. Good luck

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Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 1:16pm
Scott, does he live in MI??  LOL


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Posted By: allisrutledge
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 1:26pm
Mabee? I think there is one in middle Tn also!!! Better not say. 😁

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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 1:29pm
Making one is probably the best option. The set-up and machining time is going to make it cost prohibitive. I have cut some double lead threads on a lathe, they weren't bad once set-up and going. However, they were external and NOT Acme. Internal, Acme, double lead would make for a difficult project.


Posted By: allisrutledge
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 1:33pm
Not to mention using a material that will last . Dan , you better recommend he has at least 2 made if he goes that route.

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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 1:46pm
Originally posted by allisrutledge allisrutledge wrote:

Not to mention using a material that will last . Dan , you better recommend he has at least 2 made if he goes that route.


Good point! I hadn't even thought that far, machining it was all I considered.


Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 1:48pm
Best to take the screw to a good machine shop with a CNC lathe. Much cheaper this way especially for a one or two off part. Cutting a double lead will cost more, but is is cheaper than a quad lead. HTH Tracy


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Posted By: DanC911
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 2:12pm
II sent an email to the machine tool shop at the tech school I attended while in high school. The department had said they could probably make it. The hard part would be making the tool to cut the internal thread. Seems like it would be a good project for a future tool maker.

 Thanks for all the help. I would not have even thought of checking with them if you folks hadn't mentioned getting it machined.


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Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 4:19pm
Dan I would try it if vice was closer, as I would want all the parts to get good fit.  Double start thread isn't that hard , as said tool grind would be the critical part.   FYI look at a water bottle screw cap I think they are three start thread.


Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 6:26pm
Search Away!...

https://www.mcmaster.com/lead-screw-nuts" rel="nofollow - https://www.mcmaster.com/lead-screw-nuts




Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2018 at 6:42pm
problem is going to be that 1 inch and 1-1/4 inch are the standard sizes.... 1-1/8 is an odd ball......... and if you do find it, it will "normally" be 5 threads... but you can find 4.
 
 
 
http://greenbaymfgco.com/ACME-nuts.php" rel="nofollow - http://greenbaymfgco.com/ACME-nuts.php


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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 7:31am
I could make it for you here if you were closer.  We have made parts with as many as 13 threads!  (external, but no big deal).  I'd just open a catalog and buy the tool.  Might take all the fun out of it though.


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 10:48am
Something to think about on this; being a double lead acme thread that is 4 pitch. Threading tools for acme threads are pitch specific. It is '4' threads per inch but would need to use an '8' pitch threading tool. I'm about 97% sure on this. Clear as mud, right?


Posted By: LouSWPA
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 12:41pm
ask Mr Coyote, he was pretty knowledgeable on Acme stuff

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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2018 at 6:04pm
Methinks a $50 dollar bargain has turned into a $500 project...

Might be time to sell it for less'n ya bought it for, and save some$Wink



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