Gleaner timeline
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Topic: Gleaner timeline
Posted By: IHCfarmer
Subject: Gleaner timeline
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 9:31am
Could someone start a gleaner combine timeline?? I don’t know too much about gleaner combines and would like to know more! Especially upgrades and the transverse rotary series! And the difference in L L2 L3 and M’s K’s F’s thanks
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 2:22pm
I'd give my input, but the guys you really need to hear from are the DrAllis, MACK, and tbran, among others. They really know their stuff!
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 3:08pm
You're asking for a lot of typing
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 3:17pm
Model "L" from 1972 thru 1976.... L2 from 77 thru 82...….L3 from 83 thru 87 ?? Model "M" from 1973 thru 76.....M2 from 1977 thru 79 and then 81 thru 82. There were no 1980 model M2's...…...M3 from 83 thru 87 ?? Model "F" from 1968 ? thru 1976......F2 from 77 thru 82.....F3 from 83 thru 85?? not sure on that one.
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Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 3:32pm
Gleaner K | 1969-1976 | 66 bushels | 2 | General Motors gas Engine | 78 hp | Gleaner F | 1968-1976 | 120 bushels | 3 | GM gas or AC Diesel Engine | 93/84 hp | Gleaner G | 1968-1972 | 100 bushels | N/A | AC gas or AC Diesel Engine | 105/109 hp | Gleaner L | 1972-1976 | 120 bushels | 5 | GM Gas or AC Diesel Engine | 120/109 hp | Gleaner M | 1973-1976 | 150 bushels | 4 | GM gas or AC Diesel Engine | 120/109 hp | Gleaner K2 | 1977-1981 | 68/96 bushels | 2 | GM gas or AC Diesel Engine | 85/72 hp | Gleaner F2 | 1977-1982 | 120 bushels | 3 | GM gas or AC Diesel Engine | 112/95 hp | Gleaner M2 | 1977-1982 | 165/180 bushels | 4 | Allis Chalmers Engine | 130 hp | Gleaner L2 | 1977-1982 | 185/200 bushels | 5 | Allis Chalmers Engine | 158 hp | Gleaner N5 | 1978-1985 | 200 bushels | 5 | Allis Chalmers Engine | 190 hp | Gleaner N6 | 1978-1985 | 245 bushels | 6 | Allis-Chalmers Engine | 240 hp | Gleaner N7 | 1978-1985 | 310 bushels | 7 | Allis-Chalmers Engine | 270 hp | Gleaner F3 | 1983-1986 | 120 bushels | 3 | Allis-Chalmers Engine | 95 hp | Gleaner M3 | 1983-1986 | 180 bushels | 4 | Allis-Chalmers Engine | 145 hp | Gleaner L3 | 1983-1986 | 200 bushels | 5 | Allis-Chalmers Engine | 158 hp | Gleaner R5 | 1986 | 230 bushels | 5 | Allis-Chalmers Engine | 180 hp | Gleaner R6 | 1986 | 270 bushels | 6 | Allis-Chalmers Engine | 220 hp | Gleaner R7 | 1986 | 300 bushels | 7 | Allis-Chalmers Engine | 270 hp | Gleaner R40 | 1986-1992 | 230 bushels | 4 | Deutz Engine | 155 hp | Gleaner R50 | 1986-1992 | 230 bushels | 5 | Deutz Engine | 190 hp | Gleaner R60 | 1986-1992 | 270 bushels | 6 | Deutz Engine | 228 hp | Gleaner R70 | 1986-1992 | 300 bushels | 7 | Deutz Engine | 270 hp | Gleaner L4 | 1990-1991 | 200 bushels | 5 | Cummins Engine | 175 hp | Gleaner R42 | 1992-1996 | 170 bushels | 4 | Deutz Engine | 185 hp | Gleaner R52 | 1992-1996 | 225 bushels | 5 | Deutz Engine | 230 hp | Gleaner R62 | 1992-1996 | 300 bushels | 6 | Deutz Engine | 260 hp | Gleaner R72 | 1992-1996 | 300 bushels | 7 | Deutz Engine | 300 hp | Gleaner R42 Updated | 1996-2002 | 170 bushels | 4 | Cummins Engine | 175 hp | Gleaner R52 Updated | 1996-2002 | 225 bushels | 5 | Cummins Engine | 220 hp | Gleaner R62 Updated | 1996-2002 | 300 bushels | 6 | Cummins Engine | 260 hp | Gleaner C62 | 1996-2002 | 300 bushels | 6 | Cummins Engine | 260 hp | Gleaner R72 Updated | 1996-2002 | 330 bushels | 7 | Cummins Engine | 330 hp | Gleaner R55 | 2003-2006 | 250 bushels | 5 | Cummins Engine | 230 hp | Gleaner R65 | 2003-2008 | 300 bushels | 6 | Cummins Engine | 300 hp | Gleaner R75 | 2003-2008 | 330 bushels | 7 | Cummins Engine | 350 hp | Gleaner R66 | 2008-2011 | 300 bushels | 6 | AGCO Engine | 300 hp | Gleaner R76 | 2008-2011 | 330 bushels | 7 | AGCO Engine | 350 hp | Gleaner A65 | 2007-2008 | 300 bushels | 6 | Cummins Engine | 300 hp | Gleaner A75 | 2007-2008 | 300 bushels | 7 | Cummins Engine | 350 hp | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleaner_A85" rel="nofollow -
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 3:33pm
Someone told the story of the reason and consequences of discontinuing the M2 for one year quite a while back. I don't remember it really well, but I remember the public made a big deal out of it, so Allis brought it back.
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Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 3:44pm
that list was from Wikopedia.... The early models were T -1954 A 1950- then AII to 1963 C - then CII E- then EIII to the K -68 - 76 G - '68-74 After the Fordson Mounted Gleaner self-propelled combine was discontinued, Gleaner turned its focus towards the more popular and gaining ground: Pull type combine market. Starting in 1928 and remaining in production until 1955 when the Self-propelled combines were really starting to take off. Several models of Gleaner Pull type combines were made. They made both Small pull type combines for the smaller operators, and Bigger pull types for the custom operators.
Large Gleaner- Baldwin Pull type combines:
The Model "A" and "R" Pull type combines were built from 1929 to 1935 approximately. Around 2,876 Model "A" Pull type combines were built, while 7,590 Model "R" pull types were built. Both models had a 12 foot cutting width, and had a RASP Bar Cylinder with a diameter of 19.25, with a width of 26 inches. This size of Cylinder would be standard on all models of the larger Gleaner-Baldwin combines, and had a Raddle Walker Separation. The width of the Walkers were 32 inches while the length was around 154 inches. Total Sep area was approximately was around 4,992 inches square. Total Cleaning area was 2,464 square inches. The Bin capacity of the "A" and "R" Pull type combines was around 50 bushels. The Pull type combines used a Ford A 4 cylinder, 32 HP engine.
In 1935, the Gleaner Baldwin model designations changed to the Model NR an NA's, and also had a cutting width of 12 feet, and retained the bin capacity of 50 bushels. The length of the Walkers changed to 164 inches up from 154 inches on the "A" and "R" models. Total separating area increased to 5, 248 square inches.
Next up came the Model "E" and "F" Pull type Gleaner Baldwin Combines. The Model "E" and "F" Pull type combines were built in the time frame of 1939 to 1951. With 10, 594 model "E" Pull type combines being built during its production run. The Model "F" Pull type had a production run of 2,543 combines. Initially the Model "E" and "F" combines had a bin capacity of 50 bushels, but in 1942 the capacity was dropped down to 40 bushels. In 1946, the Capacity of the bin returned to 45 bushels.
Gleaner- Baldwin brought out the Model "J" and "H" combines next, and were built in the time frame of 1939-1950 and were the last models of the Larger Gleaner pull type machines built. Only 401 models of the "J" Gleaner were built, while 773 models of the "H" Gleaner pull types were produced. Engines used to power the larger pull types varied between 1944 - 1948. In 1944, they were powered by a Ford Le Roi engine that developed 32.5 HP. In 1947, the engine was changed to the Hercules engine which boosted HP up to 35HP. And finally in 1948, the engine on the pull type combine was changed yet again to the Ford 6-226 48 HP engine. The final engine change, would later go on to be used in the later Self propelled Gleaners, such as the A/R/B.
SMALL Gleaner Baldwin Pull Type combines:
The company produced 4 different models of a smaller pull type combine, starting with the Model "T" combine and ending with the P-80 Pull type. The "T" Gleaner pull type entered production in 1937 and was built until 1941, in which Gleaner sold 636 model "T" pull types in its final year of production. In total, 1,552 Gleaner "T" pull type combines were built. This size of pull type was made for the smaller family farm type operations. It had a 6 foot cutting width, with a RASP Bar Cylinder, with a 19.25 inch diameter cylinder with a width of 18 inches. Total Separating area in the combine was: 2,880 square inches, while total cleaning area was 1,464 square inches. Bin Capacity was 20 bushels. Engine options for the "T" and "S" Gleaners were the Wisconsin 12.5 HP engine, which later was increased to 16 HP.
The Model "S" Gleaner pull type combine was next in production, it was pretty much the same as the Model "T" pull type, however the length of the combine was increased to 126 inches from 120 inches on the "T", and the Total Separating area increased to 3,024 square inches. The cleaning area and bin capacity remained the same as the Model "T" pull type. The "S" Gleaner also had a 6 foot cutting width.
The "Six- S" Gleaner was the next model of Gleaner pull types produced. It had a cutting width of 74 inches. The length of the "Six- S" combine was increased to 132 inches up from 126 on the "S" model. The width of the Cylinder was also increased to 22 inches from 18 inches on the "S" Gleaner. Total separating area was increased to 3,168 square inches, and the Total cleaning area was increased to 1,891 square inches from 1,464 square inches on the "S" and early "T" Gleaner pull types. The "Six -S" Gleaner was powered by a Wisconsin 21.5 HP engine which was a big upgrade from the 16HP engine on the "S". Grain tank capacity increased to 22 bushels. In total between the "S" Gleaner and "Six-S" combines, 9,291 units were built from 1942 to 1953.
The Final Gleaner Pull Type Combine to ever be built was the P-80 Gleaner combine. It was dropped from Production after Allis Chalmers acquired Gleaner. AC decided to drop the Gleaner pull type combine and sell there All-crop Pull type combine instead. Self-propelled combines was the way of the future, and not long after the Gleaner P-80 was dropped, the AC All-crop combine would meet the same fate. Only 287 P-80 Gleaners were produced in total during its 2 year production run in 1954 and 55. The P-80 Gleaner was pretty much the same as the "Six- S" Gleaner other then the fact the Wisconsin engine was upgraded to the 4-108-25HP engine.
So Gleaner had a pretty good run in the Pull Type market over the years, but they were not building pull type combines as later on as some of the other companies did. It paid off though, as Gleaner would move on to build a Damn fine Conventional Self-propelled combine. Copied from http://silvercombines1923.freeforums.net/thread/20/gleaner-baldwin-pull-type-combines" rel="nofollow - http://silvercombines1923.freeforums.net/thread/20/gleaner-baldwin-pull-type-combines
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Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 4:00pm
I remember in the late 60's -early 70's, the K, F & G combines would arrive at the railroad loading dock in town on flatbed rail cars. It was always quite a chore to unload them. I believe they came from the plant in Independence, MO. There were also wood blocks (cut on an angle) that were nailed into the wood floor of the railroad car to help with stability. I can't remember for sure how the combines were tied down, but I believe they used high-tensile wire. I know that's what they used when we would pick up corn heads from LaPorte.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 4:20pm
See......... lots of typing......... or copy and paste
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Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2018 at 9:12pm
AND, IF ANYONE knows where one might find a PTO powered P80, I would like to know.
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Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 6:39am
This is a very interesting post. Now if someone could take it a step farther and post approx. prices they sold for thru the years and approx. grain prices I think it would be simple math to see why farmers are still at the bottom of the barrel even with all the inovations and improvments that have evolved thru time. The fact remains that farmers "buy retail"--"sell wholesale"--and pay the freight BOTH ways.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 7:52am
Unit3 wrote:
AND, IF ANYONE knows where one might find a PTO powered P80, I would like to know. | I don't but my brother is looking for the parts to convert his P80 to PTO or at least I've tried to convince him to do that. I hate those junk Wisconsin engines.
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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 3:39pm
Ky.Allis wrote:
This is a very interesting post. Now if someone could take it a step farther and post approx. prices they sold for thru the years and approx. grain prices I think it would be simple math to see why farmers are still at the bottom of the barrel even with all the inovations and improvments that have evolved thru time. The fact remains that farmers "buy retail"--"sell wholesale"--and pay the freight BOTH ways. |
In 1979 a MH2 with 18 foot grain head with grain lose monitor and all was $80,000 +/- a few pennies in California. This one had the 3500 engine rather than the 2900 that was also available. And on the hillsides they were all "hydro traction drive", they did not offer variable speed belt drive.
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Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 7:44pm
Hey Ray! Ya know why hydro only? Hills and a neutral position don't go well together.
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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2018 at 8:55pm
Norm Swinford's book is a good read on this topic. Something else not mentioned here: Gleaner started experimenting with rotary threshing in the late 1960s. 10 years before the N series came out.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2018 at 7:06am
Gleaner also produced a pull-type rotary combine back in about 1930 too. It was Gleaner or one of the companies that Curtis Baldwin started up Savage??? but I believe it was Gleaner. You can find the patents on line and pics and story on it in either Normswinford's book or C.H. Wendel's book. Wasn't just a prototype either.
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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 29 Nov 2018 at 1:24pm
SteveM C/IL wrote:
Hey Ray! Ya know why hydro only? Hills and a neutral position don't go well together. |
Them hydro's got a neutral you flat landers ant thought about. Weakness 101 in MH servicing WATCH THE HYDRO BELT TIGHTENER the pin and arm wear even when greased EVERY DAY. The arm starts leaning and one day your belts WILL COME OFF.
LET ME TELL YOU IT GETS FUN REAL FAST. YOU START COASTING AND YOUR LEVELING IS NOT WORKING. Thank GOD the brakes are very good.
But when you start with @#$%^&**((*&^%$  Massey Harris 92 ANYTHING is  a BIG improvement. But being a poor boy with real independent streak I gave up operating somebody else's nice new ish MH2"S and bought a JOHN DEERE 95 H  It didn't have no damm hydo drive .
So in short Steve yes I know why Gleaner did not make MH with out a hydo traction drive.
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