Diamond tread fronts
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Topic: Diamond tread fronts
Posted By: darrel in ND
Subject: Diamond tread fronts
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2018 at 1:38pm
| I picked up a "like new" set of 16.5L-16.1 diamond tread tires, and I would like to put them on the front of my 7060. They did come with rims, but the offset is not correct for the 7060. The factory rims are sporting 11L-16's. I would guess that I am correct to assume that these diamond treads will not go onto the factory rims, will they....? Probably mostly due to the "point one" on the end of the size..? I have to wonder what was wrong with plain old 16? Why do they have to have 16.1? I guess that this is sort of a question/want ad. If my factory rims render useless, then I am in the hunt for a set of rims that will work. I just love the looks of those big ole diamond treads on the front end of the 7000 series, and am anxious to get them on. One of em on there now is about to blow anyhow. I'll post pictures when (or if) I get them on. Thanks, Darrel |
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Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2018 at 10:43pm
| You can't put a 16.1 on a16 rim. The rim would be to narrow any way that's why they did that. Did you turn the rim around and put the valve stem on the inside. That's what I did for Wide L series tires on my 190. We also had to turn them around to put wide combine flotation tire on one of the magnum tractors |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2018 at 6:18am
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I stumbled into a pair of 18.4 x 16.1 diamond treads from a MF 2745 a few years ago. Bolted right on to my 220. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2018 at 8:31am
| Dave, I had a pretty good idea that every thing you said was probably going to be the response. Problem is, the center dish on the rims that these diamonds are on is almost centered. There is no offset in the dish either way. Also, the lug bolt holes only have tapers on one side, thus, the tapered lug wouldn't seat. Thanks, Darrel |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2018 at 12:18pm
Try a combine savage yard for a couple of Gleaner L/L2/L3 rear steer floaters (18.4-16.1) on 8 bolt rims. I have such a gleaner pair mounted on my 7060. These rims have a 4" inside & about 13" outside offset, which allows about 2" clearance from inner tire to tractor's steer spindle. |
darrel in ND wrote:Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2018 at 12:28pm
| I don't own a Gleaner L/L2/L3, so I don't know if their standard rear steer hubs are 6 or 8 bolt?? I've seen pictures in Norm's book where the Hydro-RearWheel-Assist steer axles had 8 bolt hubs. I'm assuming these HRWA axles were MudHog mfg? Maybe that's where mine came from? |
Posted By: soybreedingboy77
Date Posted: 28 Oct 2018 at 11:10pm
| I have a set on the L2 that is being parted out, I will check and reply tomorrow. |
Posted By: Mike Kroupa
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2018 at 6:03am
| You can also use rims off a Hesston 30a stacker or pull type fertilizer spreader. Might be able to find these at a salvage yard. Good Luck!, Mike |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2018 at 11:05am
I'd like to add that these gleaner tires are R3 (lug type), not the diamond tread. I run them in reverse direction for better tread wear. They grip, turn excellent, but mostly they float best across softer soils. I found my original picture of them still mounted on the gleaner's rear axle. s  Here's a picture of them mounted on my 7060  |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2018 at 11:07am
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Posted By: cowkicker
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2018 at 5:30pm
| If the wheels that the new tires are mounted on are the proper 8 hole pattern, just move the wheel centers. Not that much of a job, the centers are spot welded with probably a total of 8 welds that can be drilled out, then move center to desired location and reweld. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2018 at 8:25pm
| 7060,looks like they might smooth out some rough ground |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2018 at 6:28am
That thought has crossed my mind. Wasn't sure if anyone has ever done that or not, or if it was do-able. Thanks, Darrel |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2018 at 6:34am
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OK, I gotta ask... won't it be hard to steer with diamond tread tires up front ? If they're like lawn tractor tires they don't steer very well. I have a snowblower rider here and I can't turn very welleven WITH the weight of the Berco snoblower ahead of them. Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: LB0442
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2018 at 9:00am
| I have no problems turning with the ones I have on the 7080. I have really liked how smooth they ride. |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2018 at 9:05am
Yes. No comparison to the originals. Tractor in photo had right wheels adjusted outward to run inside plow furrow. It pulls an AC 2000 6-18 monobeam plow & the 18.4 causes no issues in the furrow. |
Posted By: cowkicker
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2018 at 4:30pm
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Posted By: soybreedingboy77
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2018 at 9:05pm
| It took a while to remember to check the L2 when I was at the farm where it is located. L2 with diamond tread has 8 bolt hubs. It was after dark and snow flurries so I did not measure the bolt bolt circle or offset. Next time. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2018 at 11:59pm
| like LB...I had the diamond tread on my 7080 (rear Case/IH combine tires/wheels) and it rode better and no problem steering it. |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2018 at 8:33am
| Soybreedingboy77, I am interested in the rims. I sent you a PM. Thanks Darrel |