Nothing runs like a Deere...
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Topic: Nothing runs like a Deere...
Posted By: DSeries4
Subject: Nothing runs like a Deere...
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2018 at 9:06pm
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When pulled by a D17! For the record, I am not changing my religion here. My brother and I will always bleed orange. This is our dad's project. This M was bought brand new by his long deceased uncle in 1952. As a kid, he spent a fair bit of time on the seat. However it has not run since the early 90s and was rarely used before that. His cousin wanted it out of his barn. When dad said he would get it running and keep it in the family, they let him have it for free! Dad is planning to rebuild the engine and go through the mechanicals, but will leave the rest all original - it does have nice patina. The waffle plate rims also need some help, but will probably be a job for our local fab shop. At least we have lots of orange to keep it company!    ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
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Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2018 at 9:12pm
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Keep it in the family. Great story. Now all it needs is to be painted DOT highway safety orange. Hmmm. ------------- 2-8070FWA PS/8050PS/7080/7045PS/200/D15-II/2-WD45/WD/3-WC/UC/C |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2018 at 9:30pm
| LMAO! |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2018 at 10:14pm
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I must say...that is one beautiful D17!!!! ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2018 at 6:09am
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where to begin... OK, foggy..must have been yesterday morning, same here then too... What the heck are waffle plate rims ? How'd you get the tractor up onto the tow dolly ? Sure is a BIG and pretty 'drive shed' ! GREAT that it'll be kept in it's 'working clothes' and on the farm ! Jay ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2018 at 7:23am
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There is nothing like a family tractor...….but it will never be as nice as that D-17!!! It's nice to have an old John Deere around to make you really appreciate the AC's!
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Posted By: Dave H
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2018 at 8:15am
if it was mine, I would get it running first. Thing may not need complete disassembly.  |
Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2018 at 9:22am
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One thing that series of tractors had that I don't believe I'v seen on any other tractor is a steering wheel that adjusts in and out. Dusty ------------- 917 H, '48 G, '65 D-10 series III "Allis Express" |
Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2018 at 9:31am
Waffle plate rims are John Deere's way of adjusting the width of the rear wheels. It is a wavey piece that goes around the inside of the rim which connects to the wheel center. Over the years, calcium leaking out of the tire has disintegrated a chunk of it. Repros are not available and many people are looking for good ones. Like I said, hopefully our local fab shop can fix them up. They have never failed us before! Pretty simple getting it on the dolly. Dropped the wheels into a couple of holes we dug so the ramps were at ground level. Then we put a bar on the lift arms of the D17 and secured a chain hoist to it and winched the M onto the dolly. One flat tire makes it quite a bit harder to move! Dad knows the history of the tractor. Never worked hard and never had the engine rebuilt. Currently, the valves are stuck and there might be a leaking head gasket. He figures a rebuild shouldn't cost much since there are only 2 cylinders! ------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080 |
jaybmiller wrote:Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2018 at 11:23am
That idea will go away when he prices parts and machine work. It's not like an AC where you can just replace the sleeves. If the cylinders are damaged, they have to be bored. If they are damaged too much, you need another block. I bet by the time you are done, you could rebuild a 4 cylinder AC for less money.
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Posted By: exSW
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2018 at 12:38pm
| I always liked those Deere's. They don't seem to get much respect in the two cylinder community. |
Posted By: sparky
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2018 at 2:23pm
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Rear rims were also labeled "Ribbon Rims". ------------- It's the color tractor my grandpa had! |
Posted By: Orange Glow
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2018 at 3:02pm
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I think Allis’s and Deere’s get along just fine. I always wanted a ‘M’ to go with my CA. I love doing stuff with my Ca, WD45, and my cousin’s Allis stuff, but we farm with mostly green stuff. We still have my great great grandpa’s ‘41 Deere model ‘A’, which he bought new. My great grandpa (who is 95) told me it was delivered brand new with a cultivator on his 18th birthday. My grandpa also still has the 1935 ‘A’ on full steel, which goes with my 1935 WC on full steel. My great grandpa and most of his brothers all had several John Deere’s and had several Allis’s at the same time. I think it’s just neat to see the similarities and differences between the different brands, during the same eras. Good luck on getting that M going again!! |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2018 at 3:53pm
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Should be a lot of fun and since it's a "family" heirloom, it makes it all the better!! I agree, that D-17 is GORGEOUS!! ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2018 at 4:08pm
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Lovin' that '17! Not sure about the green thing? You will have a lot of fun with it! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2018 at 7:32pm
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and smells like a JON ------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
Posted By: Wayne180d
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2018 at 10:54pm
| It took me a while to see the other tractor.. I just kept drooling over the orange one. |
Posted By: JayIN
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2018 at 12:03pm
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I appreciate the family connection with the green thing. But dont expect much out of it. They are kinda sorry. Nice 17!!!! ------------- sometimes I walk out to my shop and look around and think "Who's the idiot that owns this place?" |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2018 at 2:55pm
I believe that engine was manufactured by Hercules... a 4-cylinder that they took the back two off, and set it up with just two plug towers on the distributor cover. In doing so, they got the 'two cylinder Deere' sound. Similar to the Wisconsin twin-cylinder in that respect... 'odd filre'. I had a buddy that came upon such a tractor that had a frozen (cracked) block and broken crank. He researched, and cross-referenced the 4-cyl version, installed it, and had the nicest running, strongest version around.  ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
Posted By: BradH
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2018 at 6:59pm
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Personally I don't discriminate against any color tractor. They all just need some care, attention, and some work to do now and then. Just the other day we had a red, green, and an orange all lined up. Family tractors are even better. Someday I hope to own at least one of the Fords my grandpa bought to farm with. Later, Brad ------------- Warning! Blind man with a tractor! Head for the hills! |