185 joystick loader control
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Topic: 185 joystick loader control
Posted By: 185turbo
Subject: 185 joystick loader control
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2018 at 10:15am
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I was thinking about putting a joystick on my 185 to run my 500 loader . It would be nice to free up the remotes. Has anyone done this? I was curious where to plumb in for supply and return oil ect. Thanks ------------- 185 turbocharged w/ 500 loader , WD |
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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2018 at 2:45pm
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My 185 loader has its own valve its piped into the hydraulic valve body don't know exactly how, was like that when I bought it.
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Posted By: 185turbo
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2018 at 9:03pm
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Ok I wonder if a guy could tee into the line going from the hyd pump outlet to the remote valves and go to the joystick or would you have to put the joystick valve in series? Where would be the best place to put the return oil? ------------- 185 turbocharged w/ 500 loader , WD |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2018 at 9:24pm
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Somewhere here there is a sketch of how to do it. Probably can find it with a search. HTH Tracy ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: 185turbo
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2018 at 9:53pm
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Ok thanks ------------- 185 turbocharged w/ 500 loader , WD |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 16 Aug 2018 at 10:44pm
------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
185turbo wrote:Posted By: ezlle71
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2018 at 3:53pm
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There is a union on the main hydraulic feed to the remote valve stack, run 5/8 hose from the feed to your joystick. Then 5/8 hose from power beyond on the joystick back to the feed line. Then from return port on joystick go back to sump on tractor. Make sure joystick is open center with power beyond. I just did the same thing on my 190XT earlier this summer. I love having the remotes freed up. ------------- 190XT, 185, D15 SII, 7040 is living again, 7010 retired for parts. |
Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2018 at 8:28pm
Here is a sketch I posted for a 190. The 185 should be similar. ------------- 1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A |
Posted By: chalmera
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2018 at 8:44pm
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Which stick are you planning on using? I have a 400 series loader, has its own pump, but the spool valve is shot. Looking at my options. |
Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2018 at 4:34pm
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I am in a similar situation to chalmera. I have a 500 series loader. Brand, model and price of replacement? |
Posted By: chalmera
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2018 at 7:10pm
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Did you get the joystick? Which one? What about this? https://northernhydraulics.net/catalog/cross-b-series-directional-control-valves/sbaf2-cross-double-spool-valve-w-float-ba2a1xag3ea0-680.html" rel="nofollow - https://northernhydraulics.net/catalog/cross-b-series-directional-control-valves/sbaf2-cross-double-spool-valve-w-float-ba2a1xag3ea0-680.html
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Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2018 at 9:36pm
70349914 is the part number for the valves.
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Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2018 at 11:13pm
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I think you need open center and power beyond, IIRR. Tracy ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2018 at 11:21pm
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How does a Prince RD522CCAA5A4B1 compare to a Cross BA2A1XAG3EA0? The Cross is 30GPM while the Prince is 25GPM. The pump on my loader is an 11GPM (26009-LAA 1.48C.I.D.)
I Prince RD522CCAA5A4B1 Directional Control Valve, Two Spool, 4 Ways, 3 Positions, Tandem Center, Cast Iron, 3000 psi, Lever Handle, 25 gpm, In/Out: 3/4" NPTF, Work 1/2" NPTF |
Posted By: 185turbo
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2022 at 12:32pm
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Finally getting around to putting on joystick I have a cross 2 spool valve used with no numbers that seem to mean anything. I have a question as to what port to hook where on the valve I have a block on the lh side of valve with p and T pressure and tank and then another fitting on the rh side. Does the T port go to the transmission sump or the rear remotes there isn’t a port labeled pb for power beyond Thanks ------------- 185 turbocharged w/ 500 loader , WD |
Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2022 at 2:22pm
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You need the power beyond sleeve that goes in the T or return port. That goes to the inlet of the next valve. There should be another return port that is plugged. That is where the new return goes. Your valve should look like there. https://crossmfg.com/parts/valves/ba-bc-series-valves/model-ba-2-spool-parts" rel="nofollow - Model BA - 2 Spool Parts | Cross Mfg. ------------- 1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A |
Posted By: calico190xt68
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2022 at 3:41pm
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Here is a post I did on adding joystick to 190XT. I think they are similar in case any of these details helps. Sounds like you are close to being done though. ------------- 80 7010 w/Cab, 67 190XTD Series I w/500 Loader, AC 2000 Plow, AC 4 row Planter, AC 77G Rake, Member Indiana A-C Partners, Member TAC |
Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2022 at 5:22pm
The two are pretty much the same valve. I actually used the Prince SV valve on my 190XT. ------------- 1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A |
Posted By: 185turbo
Date Posted: 27 Dec 2022 at 6:47pm
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Found the port I needed thanks for the help ------------- 185 turbocharged w/ 500 loader , WD |
Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2022 at 5:57am
| On my 180 I did not T into system, next to the battery box is a coupling connection where I split that sent the incoming fluid to the joystick, then a line from the power beyond port on joystick to the split connection on to remaining three point and remotes function. Simple and quick install, easy to remove with no special fittings. |
Posted By: 185turbo
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2022 at 10:45pm
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Got the joystick hooked up and plumbed in , pretty slick uploads/18848/DEA088B9-EDF4-4A60-8BF7-620211845630.jpeg" rel="nofollow - DEA088B9-EDF4-4A60-8BF7-620211845630.jpeg ------------- 185 turbocharged w/ 500 loader , WD |