Hydraulic cylinder stop collar
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Topic: Hydraulic cylinder stop collar
Posted By: Gary (sw Wis.)
Subject: Hydraulic cylinder stop collar
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2018 at 11:54am
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I have bush hog on my WD 3 point. It tend to go all the way down as I mow. My questions: Has anyone put stop collars on the cylinders to set the low position? If so how do they hold? What size is the cylinder shaft? Where did you get them? ------------- 190XT - D17 - D14 - WD45 w/loader - WD - (2)B110 - 616H - 610 - B-208 - WD with 190 Mounted Corn Picker - All Crop 60 |
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2018 at 12:37pm
| I've never used them on a 3 point, but have used them on a remote cylinder. Work great. I bought two packs of them and mistakenly 1 was a bigger size, but the bigger size ones are fine too. I bought mine from a Deere dealership, but I'm sure they're available numerous places. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2018 at 12:49pm
| I doubt cyl stops are gonna work very well on lift cyl's on a WD because of the geometry at the end which pins to the lift arm lever. Nothing good to seat against..... |
Posted By: Roger (NE)
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2018 at 12:50pm
| Farm Supply stores...TSC, Orscheln, etc. |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2018 at 1:05pm
X 2. I'd read what Steve posted above, it will save the rockshaft arms from damage. ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
SteveM C/IL wrote:Posted By: Dennis J OPKs
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2018 at 3:40pm
| Actually, for me they work well. They were on my WD 45 3pt with a Woods brush hog when I got it. That's been over 10 yrs. ago. I was concerned that they would batter up the cylinder nut on the end of the ram but they don't seem to hurt it. I've re-packed the cylinders and had both of them apart with no damage done by the collars. You can vary the cutting height by the number of collars you use as well as the 3 pt adjustment. They are pretty much universal as far as diameter is concerned and are 2 halves with a spring clip wrapped around them. Again, for me they work well--opinions may vary. Available at most farm supply stores. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2018 at 3:50pm
| If I was going to use the depth collars, I'd sure use them on BOTH cylinders to make the load 50/50% between them. I remember a depth stop rod that was used on the mounted cultivator with the rear scratcher. That was easily adjusted with a wrench and placed no stress on the lift cylinders whatsoever. |
Posted By: Gary (sw Wis.)
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2018 at 7:47am
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Thank for the comments. So if you have used them, did you have floating collars or locking collars? And yes the plan is defiantly to put them on both cylinders if I decide to do it. ------------- 190XT - D17 - D14 - WD45 w/loader - WD - (2)B110 - 616H - 610 - B-208 - WD with 190 Mounted Corn Picker - All Crop 60 |
Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2018 at 7:59am
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I've used a number of floating collars on both lift cylinders to limit the depth while using a SC subsoiler. I've found it works well. Steve's concern is correct if you're trying to use enough stops to have the lift arms fully raised. I've tried that also for transporting a SC plow with tailwheel. It works, but I wouldn't want to use it for an extended period that way.
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Posted By: Dennis J OPKs
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2018 at 9:06am
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I use them floating on the cylinder and not to hold cylinders anywhere close to there extended length. If cutting at different heights it may be necessary to remove one from each side being careful that both sides are equal and it beats trying to do it with the pump. It's not the handiest place to get at but usually you don't change them that often. |
Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2018 at 9:57pm
| use them on both cylinders on my 45 diesel with a bush hog.relieves the hyd pump from holding it in the 110 degree texas temps. |
Posted By: Ted in NE-OH
Date Posted: 06 Aug 2018 at 6:26pm
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Someone makes a chain arrangement that limits how far the 3pt arms can go down. Works well on my WD ------------- CA, WD, C, 3 Bs, 2 Gs, WC, I-400, 914 |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 8:47am
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Woods mowers had a chain limit system on them before they went to 4 casters. Isn't there and adjustment on the hyd pump for setting this stop up? If I remember correctly, you lower all the way and then go back up on the lever to a center detent. ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 2:19pm
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Maybe a guy should get into reproducing the depth stops for these old things.  ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2018 at 9:21am
| Neat Charlie, I never saw that before. |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2018 at 9:31am
Think I'd go with the collars on the shaft,a WD is hard enough to get on and off or already
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