Duck boat sunk near Branson
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Topic: Duck boat sunk near Branson
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Subject: Duck boat sunk near Branson
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 5:39am
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Big storms last night. One of the Ducks sunk on table rock lake. 11 dead and 6 missing. One sunk near Hot Springs several years back and they outlawed them in Arkansas. The news showed video of it going down in the storm. Sad news. |
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Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 5:50am
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Yeah,,Thad,,I seen that on the news,,,,Prayers for all those people.. You would think the boat caption would have headed for shore at first sign of bad weather,,so sad.
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Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 6:42am
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Joe I was out in the shop working and had no idea that storm was in the area. It came out of no where and was gone quick. I don’t think the weather Chanel had any idea about it either. I drove by lots of downed trees ang branches on the way to work but our job site is fine.👍 We’re also sending prayers for the families involved in the Duck tragedy. |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 7:28am
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Me and the wife were just on one of those boats in June while at Branson. Them things are not made for rough water. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 7:30am
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I'll have to assume all 17 were NOT wearing life jackets ?? I'd have thought thsat was a requirement of the tour ?? I will NOT get into any boat, even dockside without wearing one. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: johnkc
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 7:43am
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It’s a bad deal for everyone involved. Praying for all. ------------- I support the development of hybrid automobiles and alternative fuels as I need DIESEL fuel for my ALLIS CHALMERS! |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 7:46am
| So sad to hear about that. We rode the ducks in 2009 when I was 11. The captain even let some of us kids come up and navigate the boat. I agree, they are not made for rough water. They're just an amphibious 2 1/2 ton army truck from the WWII/Korea time frame I believe. |
Posted By: Dipstick In
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 7:47am
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It's always so easy to judge,,,,,,,,,,, NOW............ Pray Lord that you ease the families losses! ------------- You don't really have to be smart if you know who is! |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 8:22am
The life jackets were stored overhead in two rows. One row was kids size and the other was adults. We were told not to put them on unless instructed by the boat captain. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
jaybmiller wrote:Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 9:39am
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Saw it on all the TV stations. Why would you even think about taking a boat out in those conditions? I have had my boat in some ugly water before and I always wear a life jacket. Better than what IF! Heart goes out to all the families. ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 10:16am
| That storm came out of no where and was gone in minutes. |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 10:56am
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No one's fault, just one of those storms that come up SO fast. I've had it happen to me on the lake up here. The bluffs off to the west hide anything until it is on top of you. Praying for the families and the souls of the departed. ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 2:26pm
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Yes and there was 2 tornatos also, so it can quickly Prayers for the families
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Posted By: marion
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 7:37pm
| the one that went down in hot springs, life jackets would not have helped, the people were trapped under the canopy when it sank, they went down with ship. In hotsprings most likely geriatric group and no chance. I think that one was a bad or incorrectly installed prop seal, That scenario did cross my mind while I was crossing lake in terra tiger |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 7:43pm
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I just saw video some gal shot from shore and I don't understand why the adults didn't strap jackets on the kids and themselves and 'abandon ship'. Yes, i know they may not have been too far from shore and the 'captain' figured they could make it( one duck did). ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 8:21pm
| 9 of the 17 victims were all from the same family!! My heart aches for all those people and their families. The youngest was only 1 year old. Ryan |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2018 at 9:05pm
| we rode in one of them when it was flooding here, they used 2 of them to usher people to the casinos at winavegas. them floated fine. our sheriffs dept used to have one too, used it to maneuver the rivers for rescue and bust mip parties! |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 6:54am
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I'm just curious on them Duck Boats,,,what kind of power do they have when on the water,,? Just saw on the news,,one of the survivors sayin that the Capitan told them to not put life jackets on when boat was starting to take on water,,,,,,,So Sad,,, Prayin for those affected.
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Posted By: chaskaduo
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 7:43am
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I wouldn't want to be the captain if he survived. ------------- 1938 B, 79 Dynamark 11/36 6spd, 95 Weed-Eater 16hp, 2010 Bolens 14hp |
Posted By: johnkc
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 8:32am
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If the captain did tell them not to put the jackets on it was probably because he did not want everyone moving around the boat and throwing the balance off. He probably thought he had it still under control at that time but boy he was wrong. No one would have kept me from putting on a jacket and bailing out. Your chance of surviving was much greater that way. ------------- I support the development of hybrid automobiles and alternative fuels as I need DIESEL fuel for my ALLIS CHALMERS! |
Posted By: TramwayGuy
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 9:51pm
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“That storm came out of no where and was gone in minutes.” It came up fast, but there was plenty of advance warning. It was just ignored. |
Posted By: TramwayGuy
Date Posted: 21 Jul 2018 at 9:55pm
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“...,,what kind of power do they have when on the water?” The original power for land and water was a GMC 270, but quite a few were undoubtedly repowered by now. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DUKW" rel="nofollow - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DUKW |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2018 at 12:26am
| some have diesel engines, the ones we rode in were 454 gassers. the exit/entrance on them is in the back, has fold down steps, a very narrow/cumbersome passage, not easy to get thru if in a hurry. most don't have side windows like that one had, that is why most couldn't get out. would have been kinda like pushing golf balls thru a 1/2 inch funnel. |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2018 at 6:28am
What news channel do you listen to? The local news ( which is out of Springfield Mo next door to Branson) said that as soon as they got word of the storm they cut the trip short and headed to shore. Where did you hear they had plenty of advanced warning? |
Posted By: klinemar
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2018 at 6:31am
| DUKW truck/boats were actually quite seaworthy. In talking with a vet who drove one. Quite obvious the boat that sunk was caught by surprise in the thunderstorm and some human error could be involved. I am sure the attorneys will get the problem solved. All around a terrible tradgedy. |
Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2018 at 6:42am
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I thinking about the seating, load placement effected the performance ? ------------- |
Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2018 at 12:01pm
And I’m thinking you’re correct. It looked like it tipped on its side and then sank. This wasn’t like a ship in the movies, it went on it’s side and sank quick. |
Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2018 at 12:11pm
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It sounded like they were trying to get back to shore. I think maybe they turned and got hit sideways with a wave. Most boats can run into the waves. They had to know something was coming at some point because they did the water part of the trip first instead of the land. I guess we can all guess at what happened. ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2018 at 1:56pm
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One report said they knew 1/2 hr in advance that the storm was coming..... What we do KNOW is that we'll never get the real full story of this tragedy,that should wave never,ever happened ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Dandan111
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2018 at 3:05pm
| We rode one over in the dells. I'd say in bad water turning when be even more scary. Ours didn't have a roof. I wonder if the roof was just added. Don't need any extra weight up in the air. |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2018 at 9:23pm
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The Pontoon boat we used to have was a 24' model with a 115 HP mercury and would flat move out on the water. BUT,,,we got caught on the water one time with one of those fast moving storms and the ONE thing that made it so friggin dangerous was the top,!! That sob was tossing and turnin like a beached whale because of all that top heavy mass up so high,!!,,,,Even tho it was made of 1"aluminum square tubing and aluminum sheet, it was at least 8' high and caught a heck of a lot of wind. It got so bad I finally got everybody (11 people) to sit or lay on floor and we let the top down and lashed it down, AND the boat became quite a bit more stable, so I was able to haul azz and get back to shore. You can see the video of the duck boat doing the same thing before going under. Gosh,,,I can imagine how very terrifying it must of been for them poor people,,,May God Bless all of them.
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2018 at 12:50am
| when they made them, they didn't have roofs, then when they started using them for the tourists all over, they added the tops to keep the sun off the people, then some places like this one, they added plexiglass windows...both to keep little kids from falling out and to keep water from splashing in. if the plexiglass wasn't there, most all would have prolly survived. there is a place...don't remember where anymore...that all they do is restore/refurbish/repower them duks (duks) that's all they do. so there must be a ton of them out there yet. prolly could google them to see. |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2018 at 9:29pm
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Well,,The feds got the duk boat pulled up from the lake btm and what was so sad,,,,,was there were an awful lot of orange Mae West type life jackets still hanging off the top of the boat,,,,SOooooo Sad.
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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 24 Jul 2018 at 2:43am
| yep...they are housed in metal mesh compartments above in the middle. even the small amount of time that boat was bobbing in the water before going down, there was enough time to get them out. |
Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 25 Jul 2018 at 4:20pm
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The one we were in was newly refurbished and painted Army green. In the water it was slow maybe 10 to 15 mph but not sure if he was running it at full speed. The side curtains were not used the day we rode it but it did go through my mind about being able to get out if needed. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2018 at 2:42am
| yep...yet another reason to know your surroundings and escape routes! |
Posted By: tadams(OH)
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2018 at 1:30pm
| Most city people just panick and don't have enough cent to look for a way out |