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Topic: Harvest Time!
Posted By: CrestonM
Subject: Harvest Time!
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 3:17pm
Took my great-granddad's 60A to the field yesterday. Planned on having two 60As in the field, but my help took a trip to Florida. Cut a sample and took to the elevator for testing, and they said no one else had brought anything in yet. Got a good report, and cut for the rest of the afternoon. Decided to use the 8N to run the combine, as it was determined in 2016 the hopped-up B still didn't have quite the power needed. I was limited to 1st gear most of the time and going uphill was still a struggle. However, with the 8N I was able to run 3rd gear (6.5 mph, according to TractorData), about 3/4 throttle, all afternoon on the flat ground, as well as the slopes! You could tell the combine was back there, but it still pulled great and seldom bogged the tractor down. Perhaps my favorite thing was being able to travel uphill with a full bin and not be spinning my tires. I can't believe I almost bought a Farmall Super M for this job when the 8N does it fine and sips the fuel. Used just shy of a half tank all afternoon. 
There is a lot of rye in this field, and thus the sample is pretty dirty. However, the combine is saving all the grain and getting all the chaff out, which is great! Not bad for a machine that was grown up in a fence row 3 years ago. 

Here are two videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O88b2IMxwrY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O88b2IMxwrY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h6Fb-LztVU&t=8s" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h6Fb-LztVU&t=8s





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Posted By: copyrite1972
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 3:28pm
Great outfit you got there! Thumbs Up
 
Love the Jeep tires on the front of the 8!


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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 3:33pm
Thank you! 
Yes, those tires are nice. Great for mowing, but they don't give a whole lot of turning power when doing other field work. They were on there when I got it, so I just left them there. It's something different. My great-great-uncle bought the tractor new, and I think he picked those tires up when he was in the service. 


Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 3:36pm
I got a 641 diesel that would work real slick on there.  Only way it could be better is with an orange tractor Big smile

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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15


Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 3:38pm
Sure must have felt good to get started with combining your grain. it's usually the hot August days when we combined our oats... and baled the straw. Love to hear the grain sizzle through the bars and come pouring down out of the SkourKleen. and we used a D17 on our combines... or the old WD45... shucks now thinking about it, I remember my dad running with the old WC on his old combine.  A D15 would work really great on that flat land you have. Wink
Here's your link a few rounds in
[TUBE]O88b2IMxwrY[/TUBE]
and this one is next to the fence and a look in the bin.
[TUBE]4h6Fb-LztVU[/TUBE]


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Posted By: B26240
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 4:25pm
Good job Creston !!  Will you do the whole field with the 60?   Good thinking on taking a sample to the elevator first to make sure they would take it. Mark


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 5:52pm
Originally posted by B26240 B26240 wrote:

Good job Creston !!  Will you do the whole field with the 60?   Good thinking on taking a sample to the elevator first to make sure they would take it. Mark
I'm going to cut as much as I can! 
It's a 40 acre field, and I got about 10 acres done yesterday, from 4:00 until about 8:30.  3rd gear on the tractor really makes it go fast. The agreement is I cut as much as I want until the farmer gets his combines there, then I let them finish, so I'm always trying to hurry and get as much done as I can. I didn't cut today, though...sprinkled a bit last night and was overcast with little to no wind today, so it was a bit damp. Sun came out about an hour ago and there is a bit of a breeze, so I'll be in the field tomorrow. 


Posted By: wfmurray
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 6:47pm
In our neck of the woods it took a good julialee just to pull combine with a motor on it. pulled 60 with W C and PTO.Those flat fields  must be nice.


Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 9:04pm
Lookin good there buddy....I gots a WD that shore would look good in front of that 60..good to see that 8N handled it ok...we're couple weeks til wheat harvest here....gotta get the L3 goin....


Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 9:09pm
Nice looking unit.  You know, the 60 was the best combining unit we sold.  State of the art at that time.  Cleaned the grain and could do so many different types of grain.   The WC was made for the 60.  However, the unit we LOVED to pull the 60 was an F-20 Farmall.  Had enough power but moved slow.  Just right for outstanding harvesting. 
When the live PTO tractors with more power came out made the harvesting so much easier
I really have trouble when I realize that today the "state of the art" is a 45 foot self propelled combine.  Quite a change.
Thank you for showing me what a 60 looks like again.
Good Luck!
Bill Long


Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 9:36pm
Hard to believe there are places already combining when here they are just finishing corn and bean planting and the dairy guys are making first crop haylage.


Posted By: Ranse
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 9:36pm
I love the old truck Creston. I'm surprised no one else mentioned it. Has that thing got the original engine in it?


Posted By: Auntwayne
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 9:37pm
Creston, looks like you need the 27" unloading tube extension.

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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 9:39pm
Originally posted by Michael V (NM) Michael V (NM) wrote:

Lookin good there buddy....I gots a WD that shore would look good in front of that 60..good to see that 8N handled it ok...we're couple weeks til wheat harvest here....gotta get the L3 goin....
Wish I was closer, I'd come over and help you out! Doesn't look like my uncles' L3 isn't going to make it out of the barn this year, unfortunately. How many acres you got to cut? 



Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 9:46pm
Originally posted by Ranse Ranse wrote:

I love the old truck Creston. I'm surprised no one else mentioned it. Has that thing got the original engine in it?
Thanks! Yes it does! It's a 1951 6400 with a 235 babbit pounder. A friend of my grandpa's bought it new in '52 and used it for custom cutting. Went to ND and back a few times, then my great-granddad (not the same one who owned the All-Crop) bought it in 1957 I believe. Has 90,407 original miles. Original paint, too. Did a "bandaid overhaul" over the winter...rings, new head, valves, pull shims out of the rods, carb, seals, etc. It smoked pretty bad and used/leaked a quart of oil every 10-ish miles. Lacked power. Couldn't hardly start it without flooding. Turned out the head was cracked on 4 cylinders. Finally found a new one in Oregon (1950-52 heads are different from all other years). Now it's running great! So glad I did it! The carb rebuild helped it a lot...generally when I start it I just barely hear the starter turn over and it roars to life. 
It's slow going with such low gearing, but the buzzin' half dozen has tons of low-end torque. I about stalled the last V-8 Chevy grain truck I drove (1973 model), because I was so used to this one. Really had to wind the V-8 up to get going with a load on. 


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 9:53pm
Originally posted by Auntwayne Auntwayne wrote:

Creston, looks like you need the 27" unloading tube extension.
I have that on my other 60A. Just wanted to leave this one stock, because that's how my great-grandpa used it. More of a sentimental reason than anything. Leave it how he remembered it. Of course, he only had a pickup with side board extensions...
In fact, that's the whole reason I use this particular grain truck...it's the only one with short enough side boards!





Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 31 May 2018 at 10:49pm
Had to get the Polaroid out for old times sake yesterday. Scanned it to the computer. Dad said if it weren't for the light bar and vertical pipe on the 8N, he'd swear that was his grandfather. From what everyone says, we have much the same height/build.

See Shameless, you don't need a fancy digital camera to put pics on the forum! Now where's that Chev-Allis? Lol



Posted By: brkfldj
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 12:46am
Thanks for posting. Good looking, working equipment. Your picture and video took me back to "helping" my Pop Pop in the mid 1950s. I don't know the model of his allcrop, but it came from the Long family's dealership and was pulled with a WD45.
Jim


Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 4:11am
Originally posted by CrestonM CrestonM wrote:

Originally posted by Ranse Ranse wrote:

I love the old truck Creston. I'm surprised no one else mentioned it. Has that thing got the original engine in it?

Thanks! Yes it does! It's a 1951 6400 with a 235 babbit pounder. A friend of my grandpa's bought it new in '52 and used it for custom cutting. Went to ND and back a few times, then my great-granddad (not the same one who owned the All-Crop) bought it in 1957 I believe. Has 90,407 original miles. Original paint, too. Did a "bandaid overhaul" over the winter...rings, new head, valves, pull shims out of the rods, carb, seals, etc. It smoked pretty bad and used/leaked a quart of oil every 10-ish miles. Lacked power. Couldn't hardly start it without flooding. Turned out the head was cracked on 4 cylinders. Finally found a new one in Oregon (1950-52 heads are different from all other years). Now it's running great! So glad I did it! The carb rebuild helped it a lot...generally when I start it I just barely hear the starter turn over and it roars to life. 
It's slow going with such low gearing, but the buzzin' half dozen has tons of low-end torque. I about stalled the last V-8 Chevy grain truck I drove (1973 model), because I was so used to this one. Really had to wind the V-8 up to get going with a load on. 


Great older period photos & follow-up stories. Thanks for posting. I also love the photo of the grain truck/8N/combine. The red/white water jug sitting on the truck's front bumper brings back lots of growing up memories on the family farm.


Posted By: Play Farmer
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 5:15am
Originally posted by DanWi DanWi wrote:

Hard to believe there are places already combining when here they are just finishing corn and bean planting and the dairy guys are making first crop haylage.


That's what I was thinking! We've had weather and equipment struggles this year, our beans aren't in yet.

I love Crestons videos, looks like a lot of fun, and I like seeing the older stuff working.


Posted By: TimCNY
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 7:17am
Ditto! The heads on the winter wheat here emerged literally just yesterday. Corn just got done (for me; most of it around here is already up about 6"). One month ago, we had our last snow; usually (85% chance) we get some snow in May. Love to see the videos!


Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 8:47am
Creston, I LOVE your water jug holder!!  LOL  I have a jug JUST like that one!  I don't have that nice green jug holder though,,,,,Cry

RE: we have much the same height/build      Tall as a bean pole and skinny as a rail.  (How's that for an old saying Coke?)  That picture of you in B/W is GREAT!!

TimCNY usually (85% chance) we get some snow in May. Ours is usually in April.  But it has snowed in May here too.  It did this year.  Most of the fields are ready, but not much planting being done around here either.  It won't quit raining now...Cry Angry

How many acres have you gotten to now Creston?  I'd say that you are having TOO much fun!  Farming isn't supposed to be fun!  Oh yeah, you're ranching.... Big smile

Can't wait to see you "lil" buddy. LOLWink


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Posted By: ihc pickups
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 8:56am

Creston thanks for the videos. Brings back memories we used one to cut milo in the fall.

Love to see the older equipment out there still working.
Thanks for sharing.


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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 9:00am
Creston!
Thanks for taking the time to snap the pictures (color) and the black and white too! Great shots that take me back to my childhood, when dad did custom harvesting with the 66 and WD45's! (late 50's to mid 60's).  My dad loved those old AC combines! They did such a good job of harvesting grains!
Glad that little Ford did the job for you on the combine.
Was very surprised you were harvesting already also!

Regards,
 Chris


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D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.


Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 9:18am
Creston, hats off to you in so many ways!  That's great how you've got that stuff working so nice.
 
I gotta say, I'm shocked by the ground speed!  Dang, that's cruising right along!


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 9:41pm
Thanks guys for all the kind words! I'm so glad you all are enjoying the photos/videos. I'll try to get more uploaded in the next few days. 
Ted, I cut about 15 acres, yielding about 300 bushels. The field was 40 acres, so I almost finished half of it! The farmer and his two Case rotaries (model 2188) moved in about 5:00 this evening and finished the remaining 25 acres in about 30 minutes. Ha! 
If I had both All-Crops running this year, I probably could've cut the whole 40. Maybe next year. 
It was really fun to start with, but by the end of today I was kinda glad to stop. The combining is great fun, don't get me wrong, but that field is rougher than a cob! I think they must've sown the wheat when it was a bit damp and left a bunch of ruts. Bouncing and shaking around on that steel seat, combined with my lack of "cushioning" on my backside ended up with me having a pretty sore butt, but other than that, I was ready to keep going! That field is just notoriously rough, and apparently has been for the last 80 years or so. I plowed a bit with the owner there last summer after harvest, and it was like plowing asphalt. The plows just ripping up huge chunks of dirt, you'd think we were ripping up a road from the noises the ground made as it was ripped and torn apart. 
All 3 days the machines all performed flawlessly (not bad for a worn-out, tree row combine!). The only "issue" I had was the combine lost a cylinder bar. Oops! Heard a funny noise in the cylinder, then watched a rubber bar come shaking out the side! Still threshed great with no downtime and no cylinder vibration, so I won't consider that a breakdown, just "weight reduction for reduced compaction" maybe. Lol! I guess I'll just leave it. All of the bars are shot anyway. Come to think of it...all 3 of our combines' cylinder bars are shot. Confused But they all do the job in wheat and milo fine without good bars. 

Talking about the early harvest times...my grandpa told me the other day there have been times they were finished with harvest and machines cleaned and back in the barn by May 25! Not very often, though. 



Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 9:58pm
Creston,  I have a water bag for you to hang on the front of that old truck.  It would probably look closer to the period than the jug.  Jug looks good tho.  Thanks for posting everything.


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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 10:27pm
Originally posted by john(MI) john(MI) wrote:

Creston,  I have a water bag for you to hang on the front of that old truck.  It would probably look closer to the period than the jug.  Jug looks good tho.  Thanks for posting everything.

Time to show how young I am... what’s this water bag?


Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 10:59pm
A water bag is about a foot square, maybe a bit longer then wider made out of canvas. It has a metal strip holding the top together and the sides are sewn up Has a round opening on the top on one side with a cork it in.  You fill the bag and it gets wet ans sweats and in the breeze, keeps the water fairly cool.  Most guys would hang them from the mirrors of there trucks or on a fence post or on a hanger on the tractor. Ah, the good old days!


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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 11:08pm
That sounds pretty cool! 



Posted By: Randy(Mo)
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 11:09pm
If you are selling the seed, would you consider selling me about 1K lbs, not cleaned just straight out of the bin? PM me if you would, Thanks Randy

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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2018 at 11:12pm
Sorry, it's not my wheat. I just cut a little of it. 


Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 9:35pm
Originally posted by CrestonM CrestonM wrote:

However, with the 8N I was able to run 3rd gear (6.5 mph, according to TractorData), about 3/4 throttle, all afternoon on the flat ground, as well as the slopes!

I'm always curious as to why we people run equipment at less then full throttle. It would seem to me, especially on a PTO driven combine, that you would want to take full advantage of the momentum/flywheel effect by operating at full speed. Like I said, I'm just curious as to the reasoning for not doing so.


Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 03 Jun 2018 at 10:05pm
Most stuff was made to run 540 rpms on the pto. On my D-17 series 4 the tach has a marking for 540 pto rpms. Just a little above 3/4 throttle

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1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF.


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 10:22pm
Yep, Pat is right. These All-Crops specify 535 PTO RPM, and that's just around 3/4 throttle. Sometimes if I saw a slug about to go through I'd give it a bit more throttle, but just momentarily. 


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 04 Jun 2018 at 10:57pm
dad always ran his Super "H" Farmall on the 66, ran it full throttle. cept when first starting it up.



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