Deutz Allis 9130
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Topic: Deutz Allis 9130
Posted By: leader58
Subject: Deutz Allis 9130
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2018 at 3:46pm
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I was told this is a White except for the motor. Is that correct? Are they any good for hay work? Thanks |
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Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2018 at 5:09pm
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yes, would be a very good tractor if you don't mind the Deutz engine. Very good engine too. That tractor would basically be the same as a White 145, but with the 374 Deutz instead of a 359 B series Cummins. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: Pete from IL
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2018 at 6:42pm
| I have had one since 1998. Has been a good tractor, I pull a 12 row 30" planter in the spring and a New Holland 5070 small square baler in the summer. It works good on the baler. |
Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2018 at 6:48pm
| They were good tractors. Tougher than any thing they have had since. MACK |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2018 at 7:58pm
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The air cooled motors are JUNK. We had an air cooled combine and fought with the motor continually. Several neighbors had Duetz tractors and they all gave up on trying to keep them running. Next cross road there’s a dead Duetz in a pasture the next farm has a dead one in a shed. That combine we had was the only motor we stocked internals for because we had to tear it down so often. If all your doing is hay buy a 7020, 7045, or 7060 and have something decent. My 7080 was lower stress than the kraut can. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: Pete from IL
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2018 at 8:51pm
| I have not had one minutes trouble with this Deutz motor. It starts when cold without ether ( The Allis 301 and 426 do not) Is fuel efficient . No black smoke. No anti freeze in the oil. Does not burn oil. Will run on a 100 degree day and not get hot ( Not even close). You do have to blow the cooling fins out . I do that when I change oil. The air cooled motor may not be as well suited for a combine because of all the dust . You have to keep the cooling fins clean so the air can flow just like a radiator on a liquid cooled motor. The cab is quieter than a 7000 series Allis also. |
Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2018 at 8:52pm
| We had a 9190, and a 9150, R50, R70, plus 12 or so Deutz power units, put thousands of hours on them, never had any problems. Our local Allis dealer was also the dealer for Deutz power units, said it was the best engine built. They are very heavy built tractors, and the Deutz 374 engine was easy on fuel. There was also a local independent mechanic, who also sold Deutz power units, between the two of them, there were several hundred of these engines in the area. One thing you want to keep in mind, if you are going to use it during the winter, you want to keep the oil heater plugged in. If you plug it in with the oil cold, it has a tendency to cake onto the heater. And you want to keep the engine clean. |
Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2018 at 9:13pm
| I always heard the deutz aircooled motors were bulletproof. I always thought those German engineers were smart. I guess it might be a owner/operator issue. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2018 at 7:50am
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When I was at the AC dealership back in the early 1990s the farmers who had them loved them and the only ones who didn't never owned one. You have to keep them clean. Poor maintenance will lead to plugs fins though when I was there the owners of the dealership also farmed 1000 acres and had a 9170 that I did a lot of the normal maintenance on and in the 1000 hours or so that I saw on that machine I never once had to blow out the cooling fins. They were always clean. Nice ride but I've been told the brakes don't live as long on them as they do on an Allis. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2018 at 8:12am
Apparently it’s an accident I have two 9000 plus hour 6080s and brought a 7060 that was left for dead back to life not to mention the 7080 that the previous owner gave up on that I resurrected. Also a huge coincidence that the folks in my neighborhood also had issues with Duetz. I know it must be operator error on their part also. Oh we loved sticking the torpedo heater in the engine compartment of that cold blooded cuss because they don’t have block heaters. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Ryan Renko wrote:Posted By: 7060
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2018 at 8:35am
| I always said the 3208 cat was the easiest starting diesel engine there was, until I bought a ditch witch with a Deutz engine. If the bigger ones as as good as it I would be impressed. That thing will start below zero no ether within 3 revolutions. |
Posted By: CAL(KS)
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2018 at 8:50am
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we have 2 of the v8's in the combines and they start very well cold. the only issues we have had were pistons burnt by bad injectors. nice thing is each jug is separate and you can buy and repair 1 hole at a time. ------------- Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20 Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2018 at 11:31am
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When not if you have motor issues it cost as much to do 1 cylinder on a Duetz as a complete motor kit for a 426. Plus you have more parts options with a normal motor. ------------- 8030 and 8050MFWD, 7580, 3 6080's, 160, 7060, 175, heirloom D17, Deere 8760 |
Posted By: Allis in farmland
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2018 at 1:26pm
| I don't think victoryallis is a fan of Deutz🤔 |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2018 at 1:28pm
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That may be but they did have a heater available you could plug in to warm the engine in the cold. I don't remember a thing about how the engine heater worked. And I have no idea at the cost of repair for one cylinder. I'd guess over the years you are farther ahead sticking with a domestic engine. A friend of mine had a Deutz engine in a piece of equipment in his sand pit and he needed a new muffler. Could not get one because of some trade law or new environmental law or something stupid..... Germany would not provide a new muffler. Based on that alone he got rid of it and sticks to mostly Cat engines running things in his pit or has gone with electric motors when he could.. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: bigal121892
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2018 at 6:07pm
| Now a true Deutz tractor, I would not own, but the Deutz/White, Deutz/Gleaner combination, we had no complaints. |
Posted By: gleaner1
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2018 at 7:57am
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we had one tractor and two combines with them, worked perfectly fine for us. Blew the dust off the combines daily. I do recall on really hot days doing heavy pulling even with a clean motor the tractor temp would run slightly warm to my liking. ------------- ALLIS CHALMERS "The color is orange" |