13 foot disc
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Topic: 13 foot disc
Posted By: Joe in Manty
Subject: 13 foot disc
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2018 at 11:18pm
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Was looking into a different disc for behind the 170. I saw a hydraulic transport 13 footer advertised that needs some repair but I am wondering if that is too large. It wouldn't be used for real heavy tillage, mainly weed control and finishing. We have a range of soils from clay to loam to deep black soil. The 170 has fluid in the tires with good tread. I can also add additional weight if needed. It is about 150 miles away or about 2-1/2 hours. Would it be wise to drive it that far or should it be put on a trailer? I have not gone to see it yet so I am not sure what model it is. Any help is appreciated. Joe ------------- Dad's '52 CA, '68 One Seventy My '61 D15 |
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Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 1:10am
| Joe back in the early 1960's dad bought a 13'6" AC wing disk, snap coupler hookup. His early D17 pulled it OK. In plowed ground he had some 14.9x28 duals we put on. He got hung up on a washout and took the snap coupler hitch off the disk and used a clevas. He had fluid in his rears and did not need the snap coupler. |
Posted By: vyvyjim
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 6:41am
| My experience is a 11ft. disk is about the max. especially if you have any hills. |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 8:00am
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I think 13' is too much for a 170. It might pull it, but it will be right at it's max all the time. If you do decide to buy it, I definitely would not plan on towing it 150 miles!!!
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 9:54am
| There are soooooo many variables when it comes to a disc. Diameter of the blades and the WEIGHT per blade and the angle of the gangs. A 170 could pull a 13 ft disc from the 1960's that was made for a 50 HP tractor. There are 13 ft discs built in the last 20 years that could take 150 HP to pull!!!! ASK THEM HOW MANY HP IT TAKES TO PULL THAT PARTICULAR DISC would be a good place to start. |
Posted By: ezlle71
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 11:17am
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I would strongly suggest loading on a trailer if you decide to purchase. That's a long way to tow. I would heed DrAllis's advice. Dad and i recently purchased a 12 ft crustbuster offset that the previous owner said needed at least 135 hp to pull. ------------- 190XT, 185, D15 SII, 7040 is living again, 7010 retired for parts. |
Posted By: DaveWisc.
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 12:34pm
| I don’t know where you are located st no I have a Allis disc for sale good shape too . I am in southwestern Wisc |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 12:54pm
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In the 60's I pulled a 13' disk with a D17 gas with no problems, no duals, in tilled ground. The only problem was folding and unfolding the wings. Them suckers were heavy. ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 1:33pm
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The Doc's post.... WHAT 13 foot disc?
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 2:45pm
| Look up AMCO model G2- 2032 offset disc. Only a 10 ft 4 inch cut and recommended 200 to 240 engine HP for rubber tires. That's more like 7080 ++ tractor to pull it. |
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 2:49pm
I think I did a horrible job expressing myself  I wasn't asking you what disc. I was giving your post a X2, and asking the OP what disc. Sorry. I know it's too late now, but I would have quoted you had I meant to ask you. Sorry again.
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DrAllis wrote:Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 6:24pm
IMO, a 13' might be asking alot of a 170, we pulled a 12' JD behind a D-17 in tilled ground with duals and it was a workout for it. JMO 
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Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2018 at 8:36pm
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All depends on the disc. I have a McCormick #37 disc, 14 footer. Generally considered a finish disc. Pull it with my WD45. The old girl snorts pretty good if I sink it in. Took 2 blades off outside of each gang making it about 9 1/2'. Pulls it fairly decent now depending on how aggressive I have it set. I can knock down plowed ground in a couple passes. Third pass will make it look like I ran a tiller through it if the moisture is right. I've seen a John Deere RWA 12' disc pulled by a similar sized tractor without any problems. All depends on the disc and how you set it. ------------- Looking at the past to see the future. '53 WD, '53 WD45, WD snap coupler field cultivator, #53 plow,'53 HD5B dozer Duct tape.... Can't fix stupidity. But will muffle the sound of it! |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 7:33am
| Yeah, I was waiting for the people to jump in saying they pull a 12' with their WD45 |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 9:01am
what are you saying Dave?Can't be done? The 200 11 blade disc was made for the D17.Just asking. |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 10:09am
No, I know a lot of people that did it. I pull a 10' with my WD45, and I could probably do a 12' ok, if I didn't bury it to the axle in soft plowed ground. A 170 is about the same HP as a D17 so I'm surprised that almost everyone is saying a 13' is too big. I was waiting for a bunch of guys to say they always pulled a 12' with their 45 but none said it yet. Like every already said, it depends if it's a light finishing disk, a heavy cutting disk, or an even heavier offset disk.
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Posted By: ranger42
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 12:09pm
Is it a diesel ??? and a lot of it has to do with how its weighted. We've been dragging this up and down hills for years with a 170 diesel. 16.9x28 duals, fluid in inside tires, 300 lbs pie wheel weights per side and 6 front weights. Now we don't ask her to go real fast, but she gets along fine.
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Posted By: Dennis J OPKs
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 12:17pm
| Pulled a folding wing snap coupler/traction booster behind a well running WD 45 in Eastern Ne, heavy bottom soil as well as hills. Obviously you couldn't go real deep in plowed ground. This was before duals and getting into real wet stuff was a challenge to get back out of. All things considered, the 45 handled it fairly well. |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 2:57pm
| That's a nice looking tractor Ranger |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 6:39pm
| ranger42,that IS an awesome looking setup, but WHAT does a diesel have anything to do with pulling a disk ?? IMO, HP is HP ? |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 6:41pm
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 6:44pm
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Posted By: ranger42
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 7:10pm
Thanks, we bought it new and its been one heck of a tractor for us. As far as the diesel part that 236 perkins is one lugging son of a gun. we have had 45's, and 17's and just could never get what we were able to get out of the 170 diesel.
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Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 7:17pm
| Thanks.was just curious. BTW, what is that planter?? |
Posted By: ranger42
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 7:57pm
It is a 6 row Kinze 2000. We have it set-up for No-Till corn predominantly and we apply 28% with the openers on front and then 10-34-00 with zinc and ascend growth regulator out of the small center tank through keeton seed firmers. I won't lie, when its full of fertilizer and seed that 170 will grunt. |
Posted By: FREEDGUY
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2018 at 8:10pm
 thanks
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2018 at 7:41am
I have to agree with the explanation of "the diesel part". IMO, when you're going to be near the top of a tractor's capacity, and you're going to be there for hours, I'd rather be doing that to a diesel engine than a gasser, even though HP is HP.
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Posted By: Joe in Manty
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2018 at 11:35pm
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Guess I can add some more info to my initial question.
The disc listed was an Allis and it looked like a 200 or 2000 series model based on the pictures in the AC Farm Equipment 1914-1985 book. It was listed on craigslist in Madison WI and was located in Stoughton. They stated it had 16" blades in front and 15" in the back. The last price listed was $375.
This morning when I checked, it is now being been sold as parted out. For those looking for parts for their machine, you may want to contact the seller.
Having read the advice many of you offered, I'll be looking for something closer to a 10' model. DaveWisc, I may send you a PM.
Thanks again,
Joe ------------- Dad's '52 CA, '68 One Seventy My '61 D15 |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2018 at 12:24am
I drug around an AC 212 tandem disc with a WD45 diesel for many years in heavy clay and hills. Loaded 16.9 x 28 rears, Du-Al loader, traction booster hitch and transport valve....2nd gear. Dad bought it new, sized by the AC dealer for our tractor. ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: TedBuiskerN.IL.
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2018 at 3:00pm
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OK, I will say it. I pulled a 12' Krause disc with 18" blades with a WD45 diesel with duals with no problem. I had two 7' sections of Lindsey spike tooth harrow behind it. The duals made all the difference in the world in soft ground. ------------- Most problems can be solved with the proper application of high explosives. |
Posted By: dawntreader74
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2018 at 6:48pm
| ac-dave i been pulling a 12 footer with a wd45 with duels for years no matter what kind of ground it is . can send you a picture to your cell# it likes it in 3th gear |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2018 at 11:05pm
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I can pull a 8.5 footer with my CA all day long in 3rd. ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: dawntreader74
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2018 at 2:42pm
| i bet that ca- likes that 8.5 footer W/ two harrows on back will do a nice job. |