liquid ballast 16.9x28 tires?????
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Topic: liquid ballast 16.9x28 tires?????
Posted By: LionelinKY
Subject: liquid ballast 16.9x28 tires?????
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 6:33am
Approximately how much fluid would be in a 16.9x28 rear tire?????
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Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 6:41am
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http://www.messicks.com/blog/post/Liquid-Tire-Ballast-Chart.aspx" rel="nofollow - google tractor tire ballast
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Posted By: ac45dave
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 6:50am
http://wsmth.people.clemson.edu/" rel="nofollow - Bryan Smith's web site https://www.rimguardsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/RimGuardBeetJuiceTireFillChart.pdf" rel="nofollow - tire chart calcium chloride would be a little heavier.Hope this helps.
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Posted By: LionelinKY
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 7:00am
Thanks guys! Just the info I needed.
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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 7:43am
Start saving money to buy a new pair of rims now. Putting corssive liquid in tire is a garunteed way to rust out rims.
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Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 8:08am
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Calcium in tire subject beat to death, but only if you get a leak and ignore it. Otherwise, our D17 '63 with original rims (rock solid) wtih calcium in the tires would be long gone.
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Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 8:21am
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yes beat to death. Even if you DON'T care for rims properly, the lifespan seems to be about 40 years. That's about when we got several of his tractors with fluid in them. ABout the last 5 years the rims have been going to pieces. If they leaked, he never washed them. He just had the tire repaired. 40 years isn't too bad.
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Posted By: old farmer
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 10:44am
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We have a 1956 wd45 with the original rims have no signs of damage at all. For the last 20 years used as Irrgation traveler anchor, lots of water on them for 3 months every year.
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Posted By: TedBuiskerN.IL.
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2018 at 12:20pm
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If you never have a leak, no problem. I use CaCl in my tires, but I change valve cores every three or four years. The newer cores tend to leak a lot quicker than the older ones.
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Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2018 at 9:49am
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It would be my guess that when a tractor rather old it does not get used a lot, so if the tire gets a small leak it does not get fixed right off, if at all, and there goes the rim/wheel.
Dusty
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Posted By: 1967806
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2018 at 11:57am
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Rusted rims sounds scary but all the times I have weighed my options on my IH tractors its still cheaper to buy new rims and tubes when the go bad than it is to buy cast iron weights to furnish the same amount of weight. Only problem is the tubes you get now days. The stems on them wont take the chloride like the old ones will.
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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2018 at 9:51am
Each system has merit. I prefer iron but understand the arguments for liquid. It's nice to take out the bolts and remove the weight if need be, for the local tractor pull maybe.
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2018 at 10:54am
There are three liquid weight options and steel weights. Steel weights can be the hardest to install, not all of us can lift that chunk of steel 1000 to 2000 pounds.
Calcium Chloride has been used for wheel weighting for the longest period of time. It is the heaviest of the current options and the most corrosive. My MF-135 had it in the rears to help hold them on the ground with an excessively large front loader. One day while on the road hauling my three point back hoe to a welding shop about 15 miles from the farm the right rear tire split a couple inches of inside sidewall. Sprayed me and the tractor with that corrosive solution. The tractor rusted instantly even though the paint was good. My jeans stood on their own when I took them off that evening. I won't use Calcium Chloride for wheel weights again.
One commercial alternative that isn't corrosive is beet juice. It isn't as heavy as CC and (last I looked) is significantly more expensive than CC. But if a tire splits in the field it won't kill crop or grass like CC does.
At less weight, less cost, and no corrosion, windshield washer solution (winter grade) or RV water system antifreeze have been used. Requires acquiring the installation tools because a tire contractor won't carry or support it.
Gerald J.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2018 at 9:24am
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Been using "beet juice" (Rim Guard) for anything loaded the first time, or anything fixed, for probably 15 years give or take. Last summer the 7045 needed a new rim, and I told them I wanted beet juice. They said, "Now it's corn juice. Supposed to be way easier on valve stems." I guess time will tell. To each their own.
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Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2018 at 11:40am
Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2018 at 11:44am
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LOL, I don't know. Didn't see any Jim Beam barrels around.....I did ask them what exactly it was, they didn't know too much about it really. Was pretty new was my understanding.
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Posted By: 1967806
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2018 at 8:19pm
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I have wondered why a person couldn't use liquid fertilizer, like the low salt in furrow formulas. The 6-24-6 I use inst corrosive. I think it weighs over 10 LB/GAL and as far as I know wont freeze. Have used it to winterize sprayers before if I have any left.
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