$10,000 190 Narrow Front Pedistal??
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Topic: $10,000 190 Narrow Front Pedistal??
Posted By: steelwheelAcjim
Subject: $10,000 190 Narrow Front Pedistal??
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 3:21pm
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Was told by a friend of mine that one sold today out in Pennsylvania. Can Anyone confirm this??? ------------- Pre-WW2 A-C tractors on steel wheels...because I'm too cheap to buy tires! |
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Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 3:30pm
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Yes it is true ------------- 4-7030's,170G,220FWA,3-220's,210,D21II,D21I industrial,2-200's,3-190's,175D,2-D19D's,D19G,WD45,WD,CA,2-UCont.,5015FWA,917,B110,Gleaner F |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 3:31pm
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why ?? ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 3:36pm
| Second to last bidder thought it was almost worth 10K ??? |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 3:46pm
To state the obvious 2 people wanted it that had the money  |
jaybmiller wrote:Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 4:43pm
HAHA I like that answer!! Never heard that one before. |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 6:26pm
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Actually I think that was the 4 wheel drive narrow front for D21. A steal at 10,000.00! ------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids! |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 6:57pm
| So, did anybody on here go to that auction. Was thinkin of goin, but a light wallet, and 86 mile trip soon convinced me to stay home. Also when the sale is all one color, the deeper pockets tend to show up... |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 7:49pm
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I went. Over 400 mile round trip for me. And yes, I was there to bid on it for my 190XT. I soon found myself out of the race early. I am still in shock at the final price. I can tell you everyone was in shock and could not believe what had just happened in less than 5 minutes. It boiled down to 2 people that wanted it equally bad. I will stop at this point and congratulate the person that purchased it. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 7:51pm
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4 Wheel Drive Narrow Front !! Now that would be an interesting tractor to see. Gary |
Posted By: Fred in Pa
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 7:52pm
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All you have to do is want something. Only way to get it is BUY IT. ------------- He who dies with the most toys is, nonetheless ,still dead. If all else fails ,Read all that is PRINTED. |
Posted By: *DougW
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 8:06pm
| Sale report from Alvin Martin sale: Terra Tiger $2300, WC 700, 170 gas 3rd gear problem $2150, 190xt on gas but had LP $4300,200 with trans issue $1800 D-17D $3400, D-17,$2000, nice 185 $6000, 66 combine $700, 170 gas,$2800, 185 with turbo $5400, 6080 with cab $8200, 8030 $15500, 8050 $16000, D-21 with big tires $16000, D-21 no 3point $12500, D-10 sc $2000. There were more but rain made it mean to write. I thought things sold very well. I'm |
Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 8:27pm
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Ten grand just for the front pedestal? Amazing, wonder if it was some kind of war between two guys who don't want to be out bid. DougW, "I'm"??? ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 8:39pm
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Still kicking myself for not buying the NOS narrow front for $400 12 years ago...bought an old 2 row corn planter instead :-( ------------- ALLIS EXPRESS! This year: |
Posted By: JimWenigOH
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 8:42pm
| Buy it for $10000, put it on a nice $5000 to $7000 190 tractor and you have a $15000 to $17000 narrow front 190. I don't think that's out of line at all. |
Posted By: EricPA
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 8:47pm
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what about the Buda diesel 2 cyl. power unit? ------------- Life is tough,but it's tougher when you're stupid. - John Wayne |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 6:39am
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Anyone here buy it? |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 7:21am
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Sure am glad that I got my OneNinety narrow front when I did. Came from a few miles from that auction. Was thinking about going but 400 miles one way and just back from Australia changed my mind. Was the 10G just for the pedestal ? Was there a zipper front end to go with it? It takes both to install. ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 8:16am
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Wonder what it would cost to reproduce them? |
Posted By: EricPA
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 9:45am
Not sure but I do know from a Facebook post it went to Maryland not too far away ------------- Life is tough,but it's tougher when you're stupid. - John Wayne |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 10:24am
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I signed up on the proxbid to see about buying the injection pump cores, and then they weren't on the online biddiing ring lol! Oh well! ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 12:21pm
| Always wondered what these would bring on Ebay,,, ive run across 3 of them in the years, gave 1000 for one, 350 for another, 500 for the last one ,,,,, 10, 000 that's fricken stupid crazy !!! Just an opinion now |
Posted By: skateboarder68
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 2:49pm
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Agreed but it wasn't my money so more power to em. Wonder why someone isn't reproducing them, they wouldn't sell for near that but gotta be some $$ to be made if it could be done. Always thought that with D21 starter weights also. ------------- Orange & Silver still earnin their keep on the farm: R62, Series IV D17 nf, 185, 6080, 6080 fwa, 220, 1968 D21, 7045, DT240. |
Posted By: ZachD89
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 3:08pm
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The Buda 2 cylinder power unit sold for $600. I was there and bought the restored WC ------------- 37 A,37 Waukesha B,35 WC,38 WF,M crawler,49 WF,49 WD,53 WD45,39 and 40 RC,47 WC,41 B,39 B,48G,48,C,59D10,D21,IB,B10,B12,B208,B1,Roto Bale Loader, sp100 combine, allcrop 66, L3 Gleaner |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 3:55pm
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Complete NF, zipper, pedestal, hydraulic lines. Yes, the final price was outrageous but I am not going to knock anyone that buys something they really want, no matter the cost. I’m just sad it doesn’t belong to me. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 4:52pm
Should have hit it a few more times probably could have gotten it for 12K. |
Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 7:08pm
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Gary, had I known you was willing to donate some big cash I would have. ------------- 1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD |
Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 8:00pm
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That happens when two siblings want it. ------------- D14, D17, 5020, 612H, CASE 446 |
Posted By: Josh in Pa
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 6:30am
| Why are these valuable? Pulling? Just rare? It seems like most tractors with narrow front are cheaper. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 7:06am
| If you look at the older 190 front support casting, it could be finished off by fully machining the bores and other passages and bolt holes. The pistons and shaft/gear assembly would be much harder. Might be able to graft in parts from an Oliver to fit inside the A-C casting ?? Then too, you'd have to find a pedestal and they are different than any other A-C. |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 7:38am
I'd say the NF verses WF value has made a complete switch especially with the bigger tractors.When I was looking for a D15 I found a whole lot more WF than NF tractors around. BTW if anyone is interested I have a D19 single wheel set up I'd sell and I'll give at least a 90% discount over that NF(LOL) |
Posted By: CALEBnOK
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 5:41pm
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The foundry at witchita falls texas has all the patterns im told for weights. They were recasting any weights by the pound (I was trying to reference skateboarders post) it didnt qoute it |
Posted By: *DougW
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 8:09pm
| I like narrow fronts if tractor is just a show piece. Takes up less space to store and haul on trailer. |
Posted By: ACJake
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2018 at 1:43pm
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Yes it went for $10k. I stood right behind it and the bidder. I spoke with him when it was all said and done. I won't say where it went out of respect for his privacy but it is staying fairly close. He bought it for his grandson building a 190 puller. ------------- 3 WC's, 2 WD's, 3 WD-5's, D-14 w/HenryBackhoe, D-17, 4 D-19's, 185, 190XTsIII, 200, 210, 7010, 10 L&G Allis's. Nunn Better Farms Bleed Orange!!!!! |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2018 at 3:57pm
| He'd been better off spending $1000 to fabricate a light wide front end and spend the other 9K on the engine !!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm jus sayin... |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2018 at 4:08pm
| Yup I'm with Dr Allis on this one,, ive thought of putting a narrow front on a puller, but then seen one snap off ,,,, not good |
Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2018 at 4:46pm
Yea..some clubs/associations don't allow narrow fronts,,,better check the rules where he is gonna pull |
Posted By: Gatz in NE
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2018 at 9:47pm
what is a zipper front end ? |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 6:01am
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OK, I'm still cornfused... 1) was it JUST the 'pedestal' for 10K ? 2) WHY would the pedestal break/fall off during a tractor pull ? ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: Luke R.
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 6:28am
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It was the pedastal, zipper bolster and hydraulic lines needed for the nf application that brought $10000. ------------- 4-7030's,170G,220FWA,3-220's,210,D21II,D21I industrial,2-200's,3-190's,175D,2-D19D's,D19G,WD45,WD,CA,2-UCont.,5015FWA,917,B110,Gleaner F |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 6:34am
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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 6:44am
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Looks like it was the spindles that broke off. |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 6:47am
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Yes but the point is that kinda of weight flying up and slamming down will many times break just about any type of front end, even a narrow front pedestal. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 7:44am
That's just part of tractor pulling,like blowing engines.10K$ front end or 30K$ motor if that what's they're into they expect it. |
Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 7:52am
| The one I seen was years ago, front end off the ground tractor still going forward with momentum front end came down - snaped it |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2018 at 8:17am
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