New to me WD
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Topic: New to me WD
Posted By: Jordan.fleming
Subject: New to me WD
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2018 at 1:01pm
| Hey new to the forum, wondering if I could get some info on a problem with a wd I am work on. The issue is the hand clutch will engage but not snap over and stay engaged, any body else had this issue ? |
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Posted By: FloydKS
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2018 at 1:21pm
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I am not an expert nor mechanic....think it has to do with shims in there somewhere... someone will jump in and give you more details...hopefully before the sun sets. ------------- Holding a grudge is like taking poison and expecting the other person to die |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2018 at 1:55pm
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I second the shims, based on what I've heard about these clutches. There's a good video on You Tube showing the adjusting process, but I can't remember if it's for a WD or D series. Like Floyd said, someone who knows more will chime in.
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Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2018 at 2:11pm
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Hi Jordan - fellow Ontarian - Welcome to the Forum. It could be a 'shim' issue, OR it could be a very large snap ring in the clutch assembly has come off. Here is a link to an 'on line' Service Manual for WD Have a look at page 34. Gary PS you'll probably have to register to GrandpasTractors to view it file:///C:/Users/Gary/Documents/Allis%20Manuals%20(GrandpasTractors)/05%20S1%20%20%20%20WD%20%20WD-45%20%20Service%20%20%20part%201%20%20%20P.%201%20to%2078.pdf |
Posted By: Jim Hancock
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2018 at 2:13pm
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Look on you tube under Allis Chalmers WD hand clutch ------------- How blessed we are by HIS GRACE! |
Posted By: Jordan.fleming
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2018 at 4:19pm
| Thanks guys i will pop the cover off and double check the snap ring is in place if it is i will take a look at the shims. I will check out that youtube video and the service manual aswell |
Posted By: dawntreader74
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2018 at 7:18pm
| may haft to take a few shims out to get a good snap to the clutch again' it will work a lot better. |
Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2018 at 8:44pm
| if the snap ring came off,dont tear the tractor apart,those rings get weak after 50 or so years.it can be progressively installed and tack welded in place.if you have to remove shims.there is a dimension called out in the manual,but cant recall it as of now.when you remove the shims,be SURE line the cavity with a large bath towel to prevent loosing a shim pak or a bolt and washer,where it will go is only ia WAG.....I always adjust mine by feel,when you get a good positive snap after removing a spefic amount of shims,you are there..... |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 10:44am
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I have seen linkage pins come out and cause this problem too. If you are lucky taking a few shims out will solve your problem. |
Posted By: Jordan.fleming
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2018 at 5:43pm
IBWD MIke  could you elaborate more on the linkage issue the snap ring is definitely there everything seems to look and function right as i move the clutch with the cover off hoping removing shims will do the trick but if not is there some i can visibly see that would indicate the linkage issue you have mentioned
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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 11:26am
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On my wide front WD45, when I converted it from propane to gas I found one of the 'link pins' missing. I believe the ears were broken too. Will try to get some pics on here later today. I had lots of pics on here about this but thanks to the photobucket debacle they went away. It sounds like removing some shims will solve your problem. If you have or can get a service manual for WD&WD45 it explains this very nicely. |
Posted By: Jordan.fleming
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 4:59pm
| Great thanks for the info! |
Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 8:12pm
| overcenter link pins.....usually when you loose a link it inverably gets into the pto intermediate gear and really makes a mess of things.i have replaced 3 pto intermediate gears and 1 case where the gear came through the side of ir all due to the overcenter link pin came out.these were all on other peoples tractors,and its no fun job..... |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 8:20pm
Picture attempt; You can see the broken 'ear' in this shot. I think this is the clutch that came out of my wide front 45. Not sure if the ear broke and the pin left or vice versa, but it needed replaced one way or the other. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 8:28pm
Here is a shot of the whole clutch less the shims. Since it is a 3 disc unit it has the solid shim that a 2 disc doesn't have. |
Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2018 at 10:21pm
| never saw an ear broken off like that |
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 9:15am
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I couldn't find a video on the in-tractor adjustment but this video shows the process of rebuilding and out of tractor adjustment of the clutch. This will give you insight on how it works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ebh4pRvTiI" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ebh4pRvTiI Thanks to Dennis Anderson, a frequent poster on here. |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 12:02pm
I'll second this note in a BIG WAY- I had one make the trip out of the clutch pack and go all the way through, and it wrecked the intermediate gear. Not impossible to correct in-situ, but you'd best have a 5-gallon bucket of profanity on-hand, and a second 5-gallon bucket and cuss-shovel scrape up all the profanity when you're done.  ------------- Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest. |
j.w.freck wrote:Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2018 at 5:39pm
| pto gear had a guy bring me one that the pto int gear exited out the side of the case and landed in the field.happened on a 45 diesel.not too bad pullig a gas engine,but that diesel will make you utter words that never existed..... |