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 Posted By: alleyyooper
 Subject: Coming soon.
 Date Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 7:11am
 
 
        
          | 1961 D17 over haul is coming as soon as the ford 5000 is sold. Searching the internet there at least two different kits.  One place has one as a inframe kit and another one as a over haul kit. 
 What is the differance besides the prices. 
 there sure is a huge spread in the in frame kits also. 
 
      Al
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 Posted By: DrAllis
 Date Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 7:25am
 
 
        
          | Only someone who doesn't know that type of engine would ever do an "in-frame" overhaul. It will need camshaft bearings and a rear seal to be done correctly and that means "out-of-frame". |  
 Posted By: DSeries4
 Date Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 8:46pm
 
 
        
          | Overhaul kit usually includes new pistons and sleeves from what I have seen.  I agree with Dr. Allis.  Definitely do the camshaft bearings while you have it apart. 
 
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 Posted By: dt1050
 Date Posted: 09 Jan 2018 at 7:24am
 
 
        
          | |  DrAllis wrote: 
 Only someone who doesn't know that type of engine would ever do an "in-frame" overhaul. It will need camshaft bearings and a rear seal to be done correctly and that means "out-of-frame".
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 dito: never done a tractor engine, but have done several vehicle engines.  if the cylinder walls, bearings, etc. are worn, so is the cam bearings. and the rear seal is a no brainer, pull the engine out.  a bit more work, but atleast when it's done, it's done right. 
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 Posted By: Sugarmaker
 Date Posted: 09 Jan 2018 at 8:43am
 
 
        
          | Al,  Good luck with the engine rework/rebuild on the D17. Will be watching.  Regards,  Chris 
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 Posted By: JimD
 Date Posted: 09 Jan 2018 at 8:53am
 
 
        
          | Call those selling and ask them what the difference is.  Most don't know. I'll be happy to walk you through our kits and explain why I sell them.  http://www.oktractor.com" rel="nofollow - www.oktractor.com  
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