Buda 262 Gas & Diesel ????
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Topic: Buda 262 Gas & Diesel ????
Posted By: Macon Rounds
Subject: Buda 262 Gas & Diesel ????
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2017 at 4:01pm
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I have been told the starter ring gear is different on the Buda 262 gas and Diesel engines. The Agco parts book confirms that information. However I have a few questions concerning that. #1 What is the reason for the differences ? #2 can a diesel ring gear and starter be used on a gas motor? #2 The agco parts book lists Flywheel "assemblies" one for gas and one for diesel. But there is no flywheel listed. I assume flywheel is the same for both ? Clarification would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. ------------- The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate |
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2017 at 5:09pm
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don't know for sure but... maybe it's theh number of teeth ? more teeth for diesel, so slower to spin, cause the compressions higher ?? I KNOW D-14 gas engines have 2 sets, one for 6V ,another for 12V.. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2017 at 6:57pm
| The reason for the differences is the diesel engine has to be cranked at a faster speed so it will start. You could use a diesel starter with its diesel ring gear flywheel on a gas engine BUT, the starter is physically LARGER and will probably interfere with the carburetor air plumbing. Also when you price a diesel starter, the gas starter is less expensive. Flywheel is the same for both gas and diesel. Buda never made a 262 engine. Allis-Chalmers made the G-262 and the D-262. |
Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2017 at 8:27pm
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Thanks DR. The reason for my question is I have acquired a 262 gas engine that has no flywheel. And I have several 262 diesel parts tractors. Silly me I just recently sold a short nose starter that came on an early D17 diesel. Grrrr, that would have probably worked perfect. Thanks Again ------------- The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate |
Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2017 at 10:16pm
| Use the diesel flywheel and buy a gas starter ring. MACK |
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2017 at 10:25pm
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refresh my memory - what was the difference in the WD Vs D17 block besides oil filter and block/sleeve oring - The part# for the G230 and Wd crank were the same. Water pump on the block vs head on what models.. ------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |
Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2017 at 4:52pm
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Hey Mac Just to clarify what you are saying. I can run a gas starter ring and a diesel starter ? Will the teeth mesh correctly ? Thanks ------------- The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate |
Posted By: Kevin in WA
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2017 at 7:52pm
| Tbran, Series III and IV had the water pump on the block, earlier ones had it mounted on the head |
Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2017 at 9:00pm
| No, if you have a diesel flywheel, take starter ring off and put a gas starter ring on the diesel flywheel. MACK |
Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2017 at 9:09pm
And then you'll need a gas starter too ------------- AGCO My Allis Gleaner Company |
MACK wrote:Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2017 at 9:13pm
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Hey Mack Sent you a PM ------------- The Allis "D" Series Tractors, Gravely Walk behind Tractors, Cowboy Action Shooting !!!!!!! And Checkmate |