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190 XT Series III lift assist

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Topic: 190 XT Series III lift assist
Posted By: AllisandGleaner
Subject: 190 XT Series III lift assist
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 6:23pm
I just got in a 190 xt series 3 and I was looking at the 3pt hitch and noticed 2 extra cylinders on it. They bolt to the top some of the lift arms and bolt to the axel housings. Is this a factory option or what is it because now it has 4 lift cylinders? If I can I will try to post pics tomarrow. Any help would be great.



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Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 6:37pm
Factory 3 pt. cylinders on a 100 series AC should pin on both top and bottom with 1" diameter pins.

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Posted By: AllisandGleaner
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 6:50pm
It still has all the factory 3 pt lift on it the cylinders on the bottom are correct like my other 190s but these bolt on the top and when the one is extending on the bottom the one on top is contracting. All the brackets look factory and all have matching orange paint.


Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2017 at 9:41pm
70252984 - search this # on agcopartsbooks.com    The late XT and 200.s had an add on lift assist that bolted to your lift arm holes and anchored to the axle brackets that bolted to the axles.   Rare option.

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Posted By: AllisandGleaner
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2017 at 6:11am
Thanks for the information I must have over looked it I'm my parts book the other day. When ever you say rare option how many are out there I haven't found any on the internet.


Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2017 at 4:40pm


Posted By: Kevin in WA
Date Posted: 17 Nov 2017 at 6:56pm
I have some of these parts NOS if any body is interested 360 201 5710


Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 18 Nov 2017 at 3:58pm
I have a 190 with this option on it.

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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2017 at 11:49am
AH HAAAA, I have a 200 with these holes on the axle, always wondered about that


Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2017 at 2:24pm
I have a 190 with them also...

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Posted By: JimWenigOH
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2017 at 3:52pm
Kyle/Eldon,
Could you post or email some photos showing this option installed on your tractor. A couple months ago I posted a question regarding the 3 point lift capacity of a 190. I had some concerns about a toolbar setup I'm planning to make. Only info I could find was for the 200, so was thinking about this option for my project.  Thanks.
Jim


Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2017 at 8:01pm
Originally posted by JimWenigOH JimWenigOH wrote:

Kyle/Eldon,
Could you post or email some photos showing this option installed on your tractor. A couple months ago I posted a question regarding the 3 point lift capacity of a 190. I had some concerns about a toolbar setup I'm planning to make. Only info I could find was for the 200, so was thinking about this option for my project.  Thanks.
Jim
 
Email me at mailto:ejons@Comcast.net" rel="nofollow - ejons@Comcast.net and I will send what I have. I currently disconnected the cylinders and took the brackets off the lift arms as I wanted speed and not capacity. I would sell my setup for $500 if anyone is interested.


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Posted By: Joe(OH)
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2017 at 8:43pm
How much capacity does it add? 

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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2017 at 9:33pm
Originally posted by Joe(OH) Joe(OH) wrote:

How much capacity does it add? 
 
I would guess about 80-90% more since the cylinders appear to be about the same size, but they are pushing on the rod side, so you would have to subtract the surface area of the cylinder rod. I'm sure other physics are involved if you wanted to get technical....


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Posted By: JimWenigOH
Date Posted: 20 Nov 2017 at 5:51pm
For those who have this mounted on their tractor, does the rear face of the platform have to be notched out for this setup to work?



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