Another B (update 28 Jan 18) Final entry
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Topic: Another B (update 28 Jan 18) Final entry
Posted By: Hubnut
Subject: Another B (update 28 Jan 18) Final entry
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2017 at 5:56pm
I bought this B from the family that purchased it new. The engine is rebuilt and runs great. Just needs a little TLC (and paint). 
 
------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2017 at 6:29pm
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Steve, Nice B! You don't waste any time gittin into them! Whats the plans for this one? What issues does it have? I would not mind having a snorty little B in the herd too. Would fit nice. B, WD, 45, D17! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2017 at 8:00pm
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Chris, I plan to fix her up and get a coat of paint on her. Nothing fancy. I have a Sitrex SM120 mower I plan to put on her. I bought the 3-point conversion to do so. The front rims are toast. What's wrong? Front bearings, steering box, vibration when running, front pivot is wore out, front rims are toast, rear rims don't hold with blocks, brakes need work (bands), it has a grab when engaging the clutch. Same ole. Nice fuel tank, runs pretty good. Love the Bs and Cs. I'm too intimidated by the D-series. I know the B/C series very well--every nut and bolt. Good luck with the 45. Steve ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2017 at 8:12pm
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Steve, They finally sold the D12 that was at the auction. Owner wanted $1000 at last months auction. It wouldn't start then. This time it was running smoking like mad. sheet metal not good at all. it sold for at or near $1200. You would do fine with a D series. Once you had one you would like it. a little easier to get on and off, but not buy much! Sounds like you have a good plan for rework and paint. Mower will make it a good working tractor too. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2017 at 9:53pm
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Nice looking B. May have some issues but really looks to be in good shape. If you have to go into the stearing box good luck. I lost my religion more than once fooling with the box to adjust the play. Got it not too bad then just had to do better and got it out of kelter again. Anyway, thanks for taking such good care of my favorite. Look forward to seeing pictures and hearing progress reports. Love to see my favorite get such good care. Good Luck! Bill Long
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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2017 at 1:35pm
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Paint??? really??? that looks better than some of what I use. ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2017 at 3:16pm
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Pulled the hubs and bearings fell out in pieces. Pulled the spindles and they wore pretty bad, especially at the bottom. The bushings were probably about 1/32 of an inch thick (thin). I ordered new bushings, but the spindle shaft itself is worn down. Anybody got some spindles for a B? I think these may work okay. I don't expect to drive real far with the beast. ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2017 at 6:25pm
Steve, Maybe have them welded and re-turned? Sound like me with the new WD45. Each time I look I find more things that were kluged up. Fixed a couple things today. You always get right to work on them and dont rest till they are purring again! Have fun! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Hubnut wrote:Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 30 Oct 2017 at 8:10pm
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Thanks Chris. I can't reuse these spindles. If you're going to do it--it might as well be right the first time. I'm on the hunt for spindles. I need a parts tractor. I've been watching the 45 post. You're into now. ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 4:43pm
The work progresses slowly. Got the front end partially rebuilt and
painted. New spindle bushings installed. I'm trying something new with
this tractor. Fix as I pull things off. By the time I get to the end,
all I have to do is reassemble.   ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 04 Nov 2017 at 6:13pm
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Steve, Repaired wish bone looks very good with bushings in place. I have toyed with the concept of fixing things as removed. Never seems to work for me! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: BEK
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 3:46pm
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Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 4:55pm
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Brad, Two came out with a brass drift from the inside. You try to grab an edge and work it out. Two were like yours, no edge--almost gone. I take a hacksaw blade and slowly cut a groove into the bushing. You don't have to all the way to the support metal, but get close. Then, I use a drift on the outside to "peel" the bushing inward on itself. Takes some effort, but works for me. Probably not the correct way either, but it works for me. To put them back in, simply press them in. I use a piece of flat stock to cover the entire bushing. Go slowly. Good luck. Steve ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: BEK
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 5:16pm
| Sorry, one more question. Your paint looks awesome. Rattle can or what brand? Thank you! - Brad |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 05 Nov 2017 at 5:56pm
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Brad, Rattle can here. I've used both. Steve ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2017 at 5:01pm
Made some progress this weekend. I pulled the engine and got it cleaned up, primed and painted. I still need to get the peripherals (oil filter assembly, distributor, valve cover etc.) cleaned, serviced and painted. The previous owner told me the engine was rebuilt and he could never get it started after the rebuild. The magneto was bad and it ran great for me. The back of the engine was spotless and the oil pump was obviously rebuilt. I disassembled it to check it out. I replaced the ring gear--it was a little worn. Making progress.  ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2017 at 6:25pm
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Steve, Looks awesome! You headed towards a totally cleaned up tractor if your not careful! Nice to check things out so you know what shape the tractor is in. Sounds like it was not monkeyed up like some are! Engine looks awesome! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2017 at 8:30pm
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The shop manual might help further progress; http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/Allis-Chalmers-G-B-C-CA-Service.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://geraldj.networkiowa.com/Trees/Allis-Chalmers-G-B-C-CA-Service.pdf Gerald J. |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2017 at 8:36pm
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Thanks Gerald. I've got several copies here I've acquired through my tractor purchases. ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2017 at 3:30pm
Made a little progress on my latest B project. The radiator was used in another B that needed one. I bought a new one for this B. I got the exhaust manifold, oil filter housing, alternator, and distributor installed. I also got a 3 point conversion for this B. Had all the parts sandblasted and painted. Also sandblasted other parts. There was some DEEP rust pitting in the seat frame and fender supports. Still serviceable though. I took the weekend off to do some woodworking. I found some 100 year old heart pine from a deconstructed hardware store that needed to made into something. Simply beautiful wood! I'll get on the B next weekend--or the next.   ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: theropod
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2017 at 3:44pm
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Posts like this make me sick! Sick with envy. Gonna be such a nice B when you are done. I have yet to open up the front end of mine. I sort of dread it, but in for a penny, in for a pound. Great work. ------------- Put the bunny back in the box! 1938 B, 1977 Yanmar YM2200 No private messages: use email: theropod AT yahoo DOT com |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2017 at 4:24pm
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Does "theropod" refer to some work with saurischian dinosaurs? ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2017 at 5:06pm
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Steve, I think your on the right track (no pun intended. ok pun intended) That front is looking very sharp! another good looking B coming along. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: theropod
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2017 at 5:50pm
Most definitely. I was the executive director of a small natural history museum which focused on the very latest Cretaceous Hell Creek formation of northwest South Dakota. My persoanl interest was in the maniraptoran Dromeosaurid and Chirostenotes theropods as well as the tyrannosaurs. ------------- Put the bunny back in the box! 1938 B, 1977 Yanmar YM2200 No private messages: use email: theropod AT yahoo DOT com |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2017 at 6:11pm
Very cool! ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2017 at 9:15pm
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So a couple million years from now will someone be looking for old Allis parts? just saying!:) Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: theropod
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2017 at 7:05am
When/if a paleo anthropologist finds a old Allis millions of years from now I would bet big money they would be excited about it, and do erything they could to save the remains. 99.999% of all dinosaurs that are found are missing “parts” too, and especially if the species are uncommon what is found is cleaned up and saved for posterity. One example from my own experience springs to mind. I found just the skull of a Pachycephalosaur, and several weeks work went into saving it. Finding just the head off of a B two million years in the future would probably spin up said paleo anthropologists as that skull did for me. I do get the joke. ------------- Put the bunny back in the box! 1938 B, 1977 Yanmar YM2200 No private messages: use email: theropod AT yahoo DOT com |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2017 at 5:51pm
Got a little done on the B today. I had the fenders sandblasted and they are rough. Deep pits and rust through. Had some sheet metal scraps in the shop, so I decided to fix the rot. Not a professional job, but it is strong and whole again.      ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2017 at 6:22pm
| The easy way to take out those spindle bushings is to get a caping chisel (a narrow chisel that just cuts on one side). Drive it down between the bushing and spindle and it will cut the old bushing right out without damaging the spindle. |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2017 at 6:29pm
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Steve, As far as I am concerned it sure looks like a professional job you did on the fenders! Nice work! Happy New Year! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2017 at 6:36pm
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What size tires are on the front? Wish I could work on mine but with no heated shop minus degrees it will have to wait. Yours is coming along nicely! ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2018 at 10:03am
Thanks Chris. Happy New Year to you too. To everyone, actually! Steve ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2018 at 10:14am
Thank you. Tires are trailer tires 205/75/15. ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 01 Jan 2018 at 10:25am
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Steve, Happy New year too! Do you have a snow plow for one of your herd? We could use one. About 2 feet plus on the ground and its coming down at a rate of a inch per hour right now. Heading to Tractor supply to get a 5/8 pin for a snow plow (back blade) now. For the WD45 at Kelly's. I may have to post some pictures for you:) Just so you can see how some us us live or survive! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2018 at 4:34pm
Another brief update. I got some painting done last weekend before it rained and turned cold. Paint went on very well for a change.   ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2018 at 4:58pm
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Steve, I like it! Man that orange really pops! Nice work on the sheet metal! Looks great. Now assembly. Thanks for the update on the latest B: Rain whats that? Oh I remember now. We might get some of that in a few days too. Today's event with the 45.  Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: theropod
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2018 at 6:03pm
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Thise radiator shrouds sure did take a beating. Mine has the same crumpled dents, and I left them in mine too. Nice work! Thanks for sharing. All my work has come to a screeching halt too. ------------- Put the bunny back in the box! 1938 B, 1977 Yanmar YM2200 No private messages: use email: theropod AT yahoo DOT com |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2018 at 6:11pm
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Steve Hubnut You the man when it comes tp sheetmetal repair. One thing I never learned to do was weld. Raised 2 boys that are expert welders both stick and wire. Youngest is putting new floors in my 52 willys Pickup restoration. When he does stuff like this it is better and stronger than when new. Youngest makes his living doing Auto Restoratiion Work. Oldest boy is a rig welder with his own truck. If you need any C or C parts I still have a pretty good stash of good useable used parts. Kenny
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Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2018 at 8:29pm
Kenny, Thank for the complement. Means a great deal to me coming from you! A lot of people on this site will be glad you've posted. I (we) hope things are going okay for you. I wish you well in 2018 my friend. My best, Steve ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2018 at 8:55pm
Chris, Not quite ready for reassembly. Getting there though. Sorry to poke fun about the weather. I know I have it good here in Florida. However, I would like to experience some snow like that one day. Stay warm! Steve ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2018 at 8:57pm
I beat the snot out of those dents. It actually looks better now. All of my tractors have those same dents. ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 11:14am
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Steve, The season changes really make us hate winter more and appreciate the summers!:) Better for you to just look at it from afar! Off to plow the drive again. And get the new battery in the 45. Have you tried any of the high fill primers for rust pits? I want to try some in the future, if I ever paint another tractor. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 3:58pm
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Chris, No, I've never even considered filling the pits. I figure the old gal earned them. Steve ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: theropod
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 5:42pm
I just stuck my foot in my mouth there didn’t I? Lol... ------------- Put the bunny back in the box! 1938 B, 1977 Yanmar YM2200 No private messages: use email: theropod AT yahoo DOT com |
Posted By: Reindeer
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2018 at 6:04pm
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Snap on is the only place I have been able to find the caping chisel you mention. They call them bushing cutters, but same thing. Work slick, drive them between the bushing and the wall of the hole. Cut the bushing, and take it out. My father had one and I recall the first time I used it to take a bushing out of a blind hole I was amazed how easy it was. Price on their online catalogue is only about 11.00 US ------------- |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2018 at 4:20pm
Small steps. Cleaned the hydraulic pump and got a new seal for it. Will reassemble after paint dries. Steering box was in excellent shape, so I just cleaned it and painted it. Notice the hump in the middle of the shaft sleeve. Previous owner made a nice repair to rust through and I saw no need to change it. Looks like a snake ate a big rat.   ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2018 at 7:00pm
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Good progress on the B Steve! Thanks for the update! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: 34 Airflow
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2018 at 9:17pm
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Great to see the B is progressing well, each small step is one closer to completion! ------------- 1937 Model A, 1937 Model U, 1929 United, 1945 Model C, 1949 WF, 1948 WC, 1956 D272 and a Roto Baler http://www.australianallischalmersregistry.com/ |
Posted By: BenGiBoy
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 9:40am
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Steve / Hubnut, do you still need spindles for the front axle? I think I have two sets that were in pretty good condition... Have to go dig through some snow to get to them... but they are there I think. PM or whatever... Looks great! Keep it up.  Ben ------------- '39 Model B Tractors are cheaper than girls, remember that! |
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 10:55am
| A good way to fill big dents that you don't want spend a lot of time on or can't get to the back side to knock it out is to get some cage mesh wire (about 3/8 sq.). Cut a piece to fit the dent, put on your filler and press the mesh into it. It works just like wire mesh in concrete. Depending how deep the dent you may have to add additional layers. In this case I use a product called Alumilead. Real dense and tough as the dickens. Works good though. I sand it with real course paper and then finish with a thin top coat of filler. You can blast your corroded places then fill them being careful to get it to the bottom of the hole. You'll have no problems with it for many years to come. |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 4:53pm
Got warm enough to get the remainder of the chassis painted. It was very dry so the paint went on really nicely. One or two runs, but it's getting there.   ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2018 at 4:54pm
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Ben, Sorry for the late response. Yes, I did find some good spindles. Thank you. Steve ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: BenGiBoy
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 9:15am
No problemo! Glad you found some, and keep up the good work. - Ben ------------- '39 Model B Tractors are cheaper than girls, remember that! |
Posted By: R.W
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 10:42am
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Must be nice to live where you can paint in January! Looks good! ------------- In Search Of: 1958 Allis Chalmers D17 Diesel serial #9643D |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 3:06pm
Sorry RW. However, if it makes you feel better, I was really cold today when the temperature was at 55. I guess I'm a Florida wimp! ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 3:43pm
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Steve, Back of B looks awesome! Man does fresh PO look good! Don't worry about those runs, I bet the factory had some too! So your just trying to make it look authentic!:) Also, when you get this far, there is not turning back now! I am not going to say anything about the weather, temperature, paint drying, or the viewing of the sun!:) Ok just a little! Its snowing enough I can't see the woods behind the house, we were about zero last night. I did go to Kel's and fired up the WD45! I really think you need a CA next!!!! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 3:59pm
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Yep, looks great! Like Chris said, they had runs from the factory. My Super 100 has a bunch on it. |
Posted By: 34 Airflow
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 4:45pm
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Looking good! You'll have this finished well before the weather improves! ------------- 1937 Model A, 1937 Model U, 1929 United, 1945 Model C, 1949 WF, 1948 WC, 1956 D272 and a Roto Baler http://www.australianallischalmersregistry.com/ |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 4:55pm
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Thanks everyone for the comments. I cleaned the rear rims today, then sanded them and painted them silver metallic (Rustoleum). One tire is a 9-24, the other is 11.2-24. Can't afford new tires for this old gal at the moment. She'll have to keep wearing her old shoes for a while. I have a few small things to paint then I can reassemble. This turned out to be a very nice tractor. ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 5:02pm
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Steve, I understand about the rubber cost. I need some tires changed/ replaced and not looking forward to the cost. Start looking for that CA! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 6:00pm
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The 9-24 and 11.2-24 are probably the same size. The tire standard for width marking changed sometime in the 50s, I have forgotten what year. Before the change the tire width number was the width between the rim flanges, in this case 9 inches. After the change the width number is the widest width of the tire, nearly always wider than the rim width, in this case 11.2" The 9-24 tire should be very close to the same width and the same outside diameter and circumference as the 11.2-24. Which says the 9-24 tire is likely a half century old. They did make good tires back then with very long lives. Gerald J. |
Posted By: GreenMule
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 7:09pm
| Ain't nothing wrong with that, good job and thanks for sharing |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 8:11pm
Thank you Gerald. The 11.2 has a build date of 1989. Couldn't find a date on the 9-24. They are very close in diameter, but the 11.2 is noticeably taller. I guess the 9-24 is a bit worn. I appreciate the explanation. Steve ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2018 at 8:16pm
I also installed a speedi sleeve and new PTO shaft seal today. It was leaking like a sieve! Got parts at NAPA. Speedi sleeve is 99138, seal is 13865.  ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 8:50am
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Steve, Good solid fix on the seal and new speedi sleeve! That should be much better! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 2:48pm
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Let me Congratulate you on the PAINS you are taking to bring my favorite back. I am ashamed to say that when we repaired them we never took those precise pains. You sir, are doing an OUTSTANDING JOB!!! I cannot wait to see the finished product. Thanks again!! Good Luck! Bill Long |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 6:04pm
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Thanks guys. That's an expensive fix, but one that has worked well for me in the past. ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 9:43pm
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From a practical standpoint restoring tractors to make a buck or two when you sell one is wishful thinking. Even restoring a rather rare little AC like a IB Won't get you back what you have tied up in it, Worse is a run of the mill B or C that can cost more than restoring a IB to a ten ;point level. Do it for the fun you have huntin worn out Replacement parts and breathing paint fumes. For that matter first and formost Never write down WHAT YOU SPEND OUT OF POCKET or HOW MANY HOURS YOU HAVE IN THE PROJECT. Think of it as preserving a bit of history and restore your heart out for the good of all mankind from all walks of life. Time out for another cup of Joe, Kenny
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 10:26pm
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how to measure rear tires. http://www.millertire.com/faqs/" rel="nofollow - http://www.millertire.com/faqs/ ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2018 at 10:42pm
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No way a 9.5 is the same size or almost the same size as a 11. 2. I can tell the difference without them right next to each other. Tire size in the old days was a 8., a 9, a 10,, a 12 and so on tire sizes back then matched rim widths
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Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 6:31pm
Kenny, You are absolutely correct. I love these old machines and find it therapeutic to work on them and make them whole again. Not in it for the money--that's for sure! Steve ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 6:32pm
Thanks Steve ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Don(MI)
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 6:35pm
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Keep up the great work! Posts like these make me want to be in a shop repairing an Allis or painting on these winter days. I don't have a good shop to do that today, maybe in the future. ------------- Galatians 5:22-24 "I got a pig at home in a pen and corn to feed him on, All I need is a pretty little girl to feed him when I'm gone!" |
Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 6:57pm
| I just wonder how hard two mismatched tires are on a tractor, or if turning slow like they do would save the gears. I know it's a bad deal on four wheel drive and other applications. |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 8:53pm
Good question Leon. Anybody think this could be a problem--two mismatched rears? ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2018 at 10:53pm
Hubnut... here are a couple photos i promised you of an "orchard" model I built out of a standard B... very similar looking to an IB, but has the long torque tube, and homemade straight front axle.... your NEXT project ?  ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2018 at 2:59pm
Was off from work today and it was warm enough to finish up the painting. I hate that part of the job! Tomorrow should be about reassembly.  ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2018 at 3:16pm
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Steve, I like the custom spray cart! Great idea! Pieces parts are looking real good. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 4:51pm
Started assembly today. I thought I'd get the whole tractor done and running. No. Brake assembly and 3 point assembly took longer than anticipated. I should be able to get it back together tomorrow.  ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 6:54pm
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What all did you have to do for installing the Speedi sleeve? Were things SO wore that that was the only option to you? I'm going to assume that the B is the same as the C and the CA and keep those numbers for future use Steve. I use my CA now for cutting grass and God only knows when I'll need to replace the seal in mine. I used to use the 'C' for grass cutting and had 2 different size tires on it. I don't remember the sizes off the top of my head, but can get them if anyone is really interested. Anyway, I now have to replace SOMETHING in the left side. I am betting at the VERY LEAST it's the bearing, but who knows the damage to the shaft? I won't know until I get into it. So I'm betting that UN EQUAL sized tires aren't good for the rear ends. I mean the bearing could have been ready to go, but what are the odds?..... DANG, you go nice work Steve!!! Too bad you aren't closer........I could sit and watch you all day while I'm drinking a beer.... ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 6:57pm
I kept track of about every penny I spent on my first one,,,,,,,,OUCH!! Makes you think you don't ever want to do one again!! Not so much the big stuff, it's the little things that cost so much. And if you figured your time........how does LOOSING $50 and HOUR sound??  ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 8:16pm
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Steve, Man its looking real good! Keep going, you almost got this one! Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 8:32pm
Ted, Yeah, I wish there were more AC folks like you in my area. Young people don't like working with their hands like us old farts. The early Bs have a spiral groove in the PTO shaft to help oil the bearing. This groove will cut new seals--hence the speedi sleeve. Thanks for the info on the different sized tires. I really don't want to replace the tires. However, I got the 3 point to pull a finishing mower with this tractor. I may have to spring for similar tires. I thought because these have an open differential that the different tire size wouldn't matter. Thanks for comments on the work. Steve ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2018 at 8:33pm
Chris, Thank you. I hope to get on it early tomorrow. Steve ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 8:52am
Beautiful job Stevo! Its to nice n' clean to get dirty!! LOL! Three thumbs up man!  Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: BenGiBoy
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 1:45pm
Man, that looks NICE!   ------------- '39 Model B Tractors are cheaper than girls, remember that! |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 5:24pm
Finished most of the assembly today. Still have to hook up the lights and a few things here and there. Used Katy Kubota to help install the engine weights.    ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: drobCA
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 7:54pm
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I must have missed something... what's that protruding from the battery box?  btw, the rest of the tractor looks just like mine... and then I wake up. superb work, sir!
------------- 3 Ford 8N's I loan to neighbors, but the '52CA, '41B and little B1 I do not. |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 8:21pm
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drobCA, It's an old (new) foot switch I had leftover from something else (like on 8Ns). I figured there was no reason to buy anything I didn't need. Thank you for the comments. Steve ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: drobCA
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2018 at 8:53pm
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I thought that looked vaguely familiar... very nice "owner engineering"! but, wow... if the Fun Police ever find you out you are in for a huuuuge fine!!!. ------------- 3 Ford 8N's I loan to neighbors, but the '52CA, '41B and little B1 I do not. |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2018 at 4:42pm
Got the mower on today. I got this finishing mower in a previous deal. Thought it would work well with the new B. Got the lights on too. I need to hit it with a timing light this weekend. I also need a fitting for the hose to pump.  ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: BenGiBoy
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2018 at 5:44pm
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Sweet! Looks really nice... Just don't forget to take the muffler sticker off before you start her up for a extended period of time, it might smell a bit funny. ------------- '39 Model B Tractors are cheaper than girls, remember that! |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2018 at 12:15pm
PURDY!!! GREAT job Steve!!    Makes me want to tear my C all the way down and put it back to new. Wish I had a shop for working in the winter! ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2018 at 4:56pm
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Steve, Sharp B! Mower looks like it fits like a glove! Really enjoyed following your work. Regards, Chris ------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet. |
Posted By: Steve in NJ
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2018 at 5:04pm
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Looks better than new Steve! Great job! Wait till my pal Bill Long see's that all back together! He will be delighted!! Two thumbs up buddy! Steve@B&B ------------- 39'RC, 43'WC, 48'B, 49'G, 50'WF, 65 Big 10, 67'B-110, 75'716H, 2-620's, & a Motorhead wife |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2018 at 5:29pm
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Steve, Chris, Ted, Ben, Thank you all for the kind words. Sometimes I reflect on the money and time spent into these and think I must be crazy. However, it is a labor of love. Till the next one--Steve in Gainesville. ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: Ted J
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2018 at 9:15pm
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CAN'T wait till the next one!! Just a thought Steve,,,,,,,,,you going anywhere near Bel Air, MD? Going to a show up there? I know a guy that would LOVE to drive that and get his picture taken on the seat!! Just a way to make an Ole man HAPPY and a friend forever....maybe more than one, if you post the pic!! ------------- "Allis-Express" 19?? WC / 1941 C / 1952 CA / 1956 WD45 / 1957 WD45 / 1958 D-17 |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2018 at 6:07pm
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Love to give that gentleman a ride (and pick his brain about AC). MD is too far, unfortunately. ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |
Posted By: The Consultator
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2018 at 8:09am
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Steve, amazing job in such a short time! I've mulled over fixing everything completely right as I go, and reading this thread definitely motivated me. One question: Those angle irons you used to support the tractor with the front end off- home-made? Excellent idea! I know my front end needs attention as well. It's on the to-do list. Again, fantastic work! ------------- 1939 Allis-Chalmers "B" restored in 2010- very good condition. |
Posted By: Hubnut
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2018 at 10:59am
Consultator, Thank you for the kind words. It went well doing a little at a time. Seemed more manageable than having a thousand pieces all over. Yes, the angle iron is homemade. Just drill two holes for the torque tube. Safest way I've found to work on these tractors. I got the idea from someone else on here. Steve ------------- 1940 B "Lucy" 1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia" 1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick" 1941 C w/ 3-point "Maggie" 1947 C SFW w/ L306 "Trixie" 1972 314H |