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Topic: Best AC loader tractor?
Posted By: spencefarm
Subject: Best AC loader tractor?
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 10:40pm
Hey guys, Just curious on what your thoughts are on what's the best tractor for a loader tractor?



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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 10:41pm
Any specific vintage or hp range? 


Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 10:44pm
I think in older stuff a WD45 w power steering and an Allis 445 loader would be pretty slick.


Posted By: spencefarm
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 10:48pm
I'm thinking D series or newer. Even the 100 series maybe?


Posted By: EPALLIS
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 10:51pm
I have a D-15 series II with rear wheel weights.  Works great and highly recommend! 


Posted By: spencefarm
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 11:15pm
Are the hydraulics strong enough to run a decent size loader?


Posted By: spencefarm
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2017 at 11:20pm
Also, what loader do you have on it?


Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 7:17am
My I600 is a pretty decent loader tractor for its size.


Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 9:10pm
D19 with a dual loader and a front mount pump or maybe 170 - 185.  The 190 and 200 are ok if you want a loader tractor where you sit up a little higher.


Posted By: Michael Crowe
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 9:59pm
Steve, the tractor you describe is exactly what I have; a 1953 WD45 with factory power steering that I added, a 445 loader and a machined brace for the front axel so I don't bend it. I'll take a picture and post tomorrow. I had a 519 loader on my D19D but wouldn't use it in the winter do to it being hard on the motor so I sold the loader and had Don Bradly rebuild the engine.

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Posted By: DakotaSteve
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 10:02pm
Michael, Yes. I think if I can track a good 445 down it will suit me well!


Posted By: Farmerhg
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2017 at 10:48pm
I'd have to say a D17 series 4 makes a really good loader tractor.I've had an AC Model 170 on up to a Westendorf WL-42 on mine. 


Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 5:58am

If you are going to be using it much as just a loader tractor, I would recommend one with a Shuttle Clutch.

I have a D-15 II with a 415 loader, and you are continually shifting forward to reverse.

Gary


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 6:42am
I like my 160 with its loader.

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Posted By: steve fischer
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 7:14am
I have a 170 with 500 allis loader love it , hydraulic steering and tractor controls for loader


Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 7:34am
Originally posted by steve fischer steve fischer wrote:


I have a 170 with 500 allis loader love it , hydraulic steering and tractor controls for loader

X2. Mine has the AC power crater 226 engine.


Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 5:13pm
6060 or 6080 4WD hands down the best loader tractor. unless you are stuck in the 50's or 60's

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Posted By: ksbowman
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 5:44pm
I prefer the 170D with a 500 loader too. I have a 180 and 190 but, like to use the 170 for loader work.


Posted By: EPALLIS
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 8:03pm
SpenceFarm:  The hydraulics on the D-15 Series II work great.  It was one of the last ones made.  I have a snow bucket on it.  Loader was made by Paulson.  Hope that helps.


Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 9:15pm
Depends on the job, to plow snow something with 4 wheel drive and a good cab.


Posted By: LaJaMe
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2017 at 10:59pm
D17 w/ L200 industrial loader with front pump.  Very versitle  


Posted By: SteveMaskey(MO)
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 5:04am
I have 5 tractors with loaders, WD45—New Idea Horn loader, I400 loader backhoe, 2 – 180 with 500 loaders and 8030 FWA with Westerndorf loader. The big tractor will lift the most, but for feeding and general loader work I like the 180. They are easer to get on and off and have better visibility.


Posted By: corbinstein
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 6:54am
I wish my WD had power steering and a Shuttle....  that's all it needs. 
I have however learned to only steer while rolling, and just stop and shift. 


Posted By: alleyyooper
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 7:06am
I was trying to buy a 175 D with a loader  I thought would do all I wanted to do. But the dealer was stuck on his price despite me showing as nice tractors a little farther from home for a good bit less.

So for a while longer I am stuck with my D17 with the Kelly light weight loader with manual trip bucket.

Is't the best rig but better than a mexicon drag line for moving dirt.


Big smile   Al


Posted By: Brian F(IL)
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 7:35am
My dad & uncle's dealership had a One-Ninety gas with an AC loader.  I don't remember the model number; maybe a 500?  We had forks on the front for moving pallets and also a boom that swung down with the forks in a narrowed position.  Used it a lot to move field cultivator frames, disc gangs, etc. to put the implements together.
I believe the tractor was a trade-in and then the new loader went on it.  Been too many years to remember for sure.


Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 11:13am
just one question , are you going to load or move big bales all the time


Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2017 at 11:26am
We have a 1962 series II D-17 gas with a 500 loader.  The pump is mounted to the front of the tractor.  
This was put on at the dealership in 1970.  They installed shims because the D-17 frame is narrower than some of the other tractors the loader will fit.  It is a great loader.    


Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 5:59pm
I got a d14 with a 445 loader and psteering. works great.  loaded the rear tires for a counter weight.


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Posted By: Dkienzle
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2017 at 8:15pm
6080 fwa is a heck of a loader tractor. Problem with them is I run out of traction long before I run out of power. They are really sweet it they have a foot throttle like mine does


Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 12:10pm


Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 1:19pm
If your going to do just loader work - look at a industrial tractor for the job say a 714 or other such or a 715 TLB  

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Posted By: Michael V (NM)
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2017 at 8:57pm
for a LOT of loader work,,I'd like to have a 645 AC payloader or a 920 cat,,, tractor clutches, front ends, etc arn,t made to stand a lot of F-R but until I get one of these type loaders,,, the 8010PS and westendorf TA 46 is what I have....



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