WD45 ground driven pto
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Topic: WD45 ground driven pto
Posted By: AC7060IL
Subject: WD45 ground driven pto
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 8:00am
Not mine, but an interesting concept. http://masoncity.craigslist.org/grd/d/ground-driven-pto-horse-drawn/6210168524.html" rel="nofollow - https://masoncity.craigslist.org/grd/d/ground-driven-pto-horse-drawn/6210168524.html
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Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 8:12am
Then they had to paint it green
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 9:15am
I'm thinking it's a straight stick WD rear end. There is a place to bolt up the regular PTO box on the bottom of the transmission, so it would be just like a WC configuration.
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 9:19am
Maybe built for the Amish or other 'no engines' group ??
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Posted By: Leon B MO
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 9:21am
A load on the tongue and a jerk from the horse might have the driver lookin at the sky. Looks pretty short and light on the front.Leon B
------------- Uncle always said "Fill the back of the shovel and the front will take care of itself".
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 9:49am
I saw a similar design at a draft horse symposium about ten years ago in Minnesota.

Gerald J.
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Posted By: allisrutledge
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 11:08am
How close are they getting to 540 on the shaft? I guess if you plug the spreader you just put the horse in reverse?
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 12:07pm
The PTO would run the fastest in low gear and the slowest in 4th gear when being driven by the rear wheels.
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Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 12:16pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DThHZ9rXkQ0" rel="nofollow - youtube searched "ground driven pto" and found this
not the same, but similar....
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Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 1:28pm
This is sort of a rube goldberg way of doing it. The only real benefit is that you don't need gasoline. I've seen horse-drawn power units that attached to balers and forage choppers. The Amish do it that way. I've seen them use WCs for belt power. They'd drag the tractor into position using a horse. It would have been easier to just leave the engine in place and pull the tractor, baler and wagon with a team of horses.
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Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 1:46pm
Mikez wrote:
Then they had to paint it green | Yes, that is why I only posted link & not picture. Maybe that's the only paint they had around? I like Gerald J's picture better.
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Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 2:36pm
I bet that bailer would pull hard for a split second each time that plunger hit. Think what the governor does.
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Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 10:07pm
Bet they get good emissions too
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 10:11pm
Horses emit ethane gas and used horse hay as manure. Not zero emissions at all. Also contaminated liquid and exhale carbon dioxide which some claim is the worst green house gas. Of course plants take in carbon dioxide and breath out the oxygen we and the horses need to survive.
Gerald J.
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Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2017 at 10:14pm
You know I was kidding right
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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2017 at 1:31am
I sold a couple of WD tractors with no motors years ago to guys wanting to pull them with horses.I think it was Small Farmers Journal came out with an article on a converted WD back in the 80's got the idea going.
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Posted By: john(MI)
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2017 at 7:10pm
Amish won't use anything on rubber.
It would be hell grinding a load of corn using that! I guess people don't probably do that anymore!
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