Farm Equipment - ? For hay shares.

? For hay shares.

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Topic: ? For hay shares.

Posted By: kinghunter
Subject: ? For hay shares.
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2017 at 10:34pm

Allittle off topic but I am wondering what everyone does on hay shares for custom baling? I currently bale with a hesston 555t baler and allis 8010. We bale on halves. Owner gets half we get half. Im being told most custom balers bale on 2/3-baler 1/3 owner. What you all do?

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Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 2:26am

I told the neighbor that if he would bale the hay, he could have 1/2, I would cut and rake it. he came, baled it, hauled his 1.2 home, and in a couple days I get a bill in the mail to pay him for baling my 1/2!!! WTF? so I sent him a bill back charging him for the hay he took home. neither one of us paid the other, and he isn't welcome on my place any more! I then told my nephew that if he would come and mow, rake, and bale the hay, using my equipment and fuel, he could have the hay! never saw him all summer. then the next summer he comes and wants that deal...told him I offered it last year and apparently he didn't want it, and i'm not offering the same deal this year! so now i'm letting the renters fight with it. they keep spraying glysophate to kill it, but they don't know it's RR ready alfalfa! at least I gits a laugh out of it!

Posted By: albatros_3
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 5:51am

1/3 land owner and 2/3 for me. For one land owner, I usually take all the hay and once it's sold, I give the land owner his cut. He's happy just to have it mowed and taken care of.

Posted By: rtwfarm
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 6:37am

50 / 50 here

Posted By: TimNearFortWorth
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 8:26am

In this area, common for custom balers (big rounds) to come in, cut, rake and bale for 22.00 - 24.00/bale including net wrap, left in the field.

As I am small enough running 20 - 30 head currently on 125 acres (25 owned and 100 leased), I have no need to buy/maintain equipment. Just a gooseneck and plenty of old A-C's for brush cutting pastures, light tillage while getting the home place in shape and a bale spear/loaders for handling decent hay that is abundant for 45.00 - 55.00/bale.

When I look at hay, dead give-a-way that it was made loose is flat bottomed, even at just a few weeks after baling. When I can walk up to a 900 - 1000# bale and can shove my hand into it vertically, negotiations start on price.

Flat bottom means more contact area to absorb moisture plus a "loose" bale does not shed water when stored outside. We do not get much for rains compared to many parts of the country but I store whatever I buy (typically 5 - 20 bales at a time) on timbers or wooden power poles so they are off the ground and also kept under roof.

"Marshmallow bales" left out in the weather can have an easy 15 - 20% of non-usable forage within 90 days and you already lose 5 - 15% during feeding, subject to how it is fed.

The game is to make bales loose so both the landowner and custom baler make more money. Have a friend who custom baled for 10 years and advised he just got tired of landowners calling while he was baling, telling him to back off the tension so they had more to sell. Advised his reputation was worth more than hearing bales he made were bad and he finally got out and sold his equipment. I tend to buy hay within 15 minutes of the place, from folks I know that have decent fertilized hay that is under weed control so I don't "bring weeds home" that I have to manage on my own place.

Posted By: Todd AL
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 9:55am

I get 1/3, plus the guy will split fertilizer and lime costs. My only issue is he wants to only cut twice a year, when everybody else is cutting 3 or 4 times. I mainly just want my ground cut often enough to keep the place looking nice. I give my share of the hay to my uncle who has a few cows. This is just mixed fescue, but I was bush hogging 5 times a year to keep the weeds out. It was looking good until this guy let the weeds seed out. Had a talk with him last night, and he's gonna cut more often.

Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2017 at 10:33am

I get all the hay land to cut I want for free,I keep all the hay.Have been turning some smaller pieces down this year still making about 2X as much hay as I need really.
Big real estate tax break from the county here if the land is used by a 'real' farmer
that is one that files a form F on their Fed taxes.Hay is cheap big bales run from
$20 up to about $35 and apparently a lot is going unsold.I don't sell the extra I have just unroll it in the Winter on pasture land and let the cows eat some and lay down on the rest
makes good fertilizer.

Posted By: festus51
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2017 at 9:54pm

It is normally 1/3 to the owner and 2/3 to baler in east central KS

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Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2017 at 10:02pm

1/2x1/2 --- here we cut, rake, bale and get 1/2. Been that way for as long as I can remember.