Off color old JD question
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Topic: Off color old JD question
Posted By: Ray54
Subject: Off color old JD question
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 6:57pm
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A backhoe showed up in my yard Sat,it runs and hoe seems to work. It is a 2010 JD tractor with industrial yellow paint on the whole thing with the dealer stickers from that time of the local Cat and JD dealer in a number of places so the yellow is original color. I want to know about power steering ,not even sure it has it. If it does where would the filler for adding oil be? The rest of the story. Have a good friend that can make anything run if anybody can,at least the old non computer stuff anyway. Has been the go to guy if you want to have a tractor hauled off,when the price of scrap was so low. So widow woman wanted this hoe to go away,had no been run in over 10 years maybe as long as 15. All 4 tires where flat but holding air now. Put a battery in and gave it a little go juice and the diesel fired up  ,and hydraulics worked. Drove it on his tilt bed and asked if I wanted it,so it is here. Has run less than a 1/2 hour total since its reawakening. It dose not have to work that well to be better than a pick and shovel.Have no knowledge  of this era of JD stuff,looked at JD parts on line and see they were offered without power steering. I cannot see being so cheap as buying loader new without power steering,but those old guys back in the 1960's were tough. But if there is power steering want fluid in it before running more. So thanks for any information you can provide.Yes
 Shameless one I have no shame ether if something will save me some sweat. You know we seem to be the brotherhood of the cheap misfits you know. |
Replies:
Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 7:25pm
| 2010 should have power steering, it was standard equipment.It runs off the same pump as the hydraulics. I think the filter is under a plate on the right side of the transmition. |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 9:22pm
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The 2010 was a Dubuque tractor and has a reputation of being one of the worst Deere ever built. It should be practical on epay or a Deere dealer to acquire shop manual, operating manual, and parts book. Gerald J. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 9:50pm
| X2 what Dave and Gerald says. and i'm still debating on if i'm gonna disown you yet! |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 9:56pm
Well now,,,Shameless,,,I kinda thought since it was a "gimme",,,you'ld cut ole Ray a little slack,,,,now,,, if he'd a spent some hard earned money for thet JD,,,,,thas 'nother story ok,,,,,  |
shameless dude wrote:Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 9:58pm
| well...the story is helping him at this time |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 10:45pm
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Yes I have known 2010 was not one people are really looking for. There was fella that liked the popping Johnny's and bought a 2010 in the day.Was making a lot of hay and New Holland was the equipment to run for that and the NH dealer was also AC dealer here. Was talked into a D19 to replace the 2010 and never bought another JD tractor,but at least 8 new AC's over the years as well as a hand full of Gleaners. He was born and raised in Beatrice Ne,and could hold his own in the shenanigan department too. Must be something in the air or maybe snow back there. Anyway I was being real frugal (cheap)and didn't want to buy books if I end up cutting the whole mess for scrap. But if it runs it will dig even without power steering.
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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 6:43am
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So I take it the steering is extremely difficult? It should have PS, and runs off system hydraulics.....but if it isn't working, could be in the valves and such, can be difficult to make right but doable. I don't know how to do it though. Guys, he said "filler", not "filter". Adding oil should just be at the rear of the tractor.
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Posted By: corbinstein
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 7:08am
| I've got a WD loader, Wide front with no PS. I know what you mean. that things a hand full. |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 7:28am
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Now that is what I call a deal. I wouldn't care if it was passionate pink if it saved me from having to use a pick and shovel. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 6:09pm
2010 was back, after cat had taught JD how to cast a modern motor. Notorious for ring problems, some of the early ones left the factory minus a ring or 4. Cat made the deal, with mother deer, for teaching deere to make a 4 cyl, deere was supposed to stay out of the construction machinery biz. Cat got skrewed...
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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 7:48pm
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I don't know what kind of "stesering" valve the 2010 uses... We have a CASE 530 and there is a rotary valve on the steering wheel base that directs oil to two steering cylinders.. When it sat for several years, the valve was dry and I had to turn the wheel several turns left- right- left - stop to stop to get the system purged of all the air and start working proper. ------------- Like them all, but love the "B"s. |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 8:49pm
| Is the engine in the 2010 part of the better idea family that was a total failure ? All the wet sleeves are part of a header plate. Been there done that with a JD 248 diesel in a 95H combine with a 6 cylinder local known as 6 pack engines. By some miracle they lasted 10 years in a combine and after that 2 short seasons was considered doing good no matter how or who rebuilt it. |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2017 at 6:30pm
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I don't know if this tractor is worth the time. Engine oil had a lot of water in it.After drained put water in radiator and drip out of crank case got faster. Will see what "magic juice" I can find,see if it keeps water from oil. Maybe Joe wants another backhoe since the last turned out so good.
    Take this one to Joe swing by Blair and get that pink JD hoe some old guy feel off of before he really gets hurt  . |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2017 at 6:42pm
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Ray, the stuff you want is blue devil block sealer... Won't work on big leaks, though. you might want to post a video of how bad the leak is...
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 22 Jul 2017 at 7:03pm
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All four cylinder sleeves are attached to a plate that is held down by the head, which complicates the sealing of the sleeves to the block at the top and at the bottom of the sleeves. Not the greatest engine design, also used in the contemporary 1010 but not in the 1020 and 2020 models following in a few years. Be sure to hunt up an official shop manual, not I&T and finding those engine parts I've heard is difficult. Gerald J. |
Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2017 at 4:02pm
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Thanks for the bad news Gerald J,that is what I wondered. Been there done that with the 6 pack model 248JD in the 95H combine. IF and that is a BIG IF it comes apart it will get a minim of new parts. Had just as good of luck putting JB weld in the pits in the sleeves on o ring grove as guys putting everything new in. IF I am remembering Chevy small block valve keeper as JD would drop a valve besides all the other bad things. I think the shop manual for the 248 may still be around.
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 23 Jul 2017 at 5:25pm
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Its crucial for JD o-rings to use the proper lubricant. As I remember a soap, not grease or oil because they don't survive petroleum products. Probably different for different positions. My '68 4020 has three o-rings per sleeve, the top two see only coolant, the bottom one sees coolant and crankcase oil, so are made of different materials. Gerald J. |