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Topic: bees
Posted By: j.w.freck
Subject: bees
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 9:16pm
did not realize that there were so many bee keepers among the assil gurus.how are your bees doing,everybody?
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Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 9:41pm
Not good, lost around 40 hives in Feb. Pollen in the hive was tested and it shows residue from BT corn. Bees collect the pollen in the fall, when the queen starts laying in Feb they start to use this poisen pollen. As a result the whole hive dies. Thanks Monsanto. Am not going to have any corn close this year so maybe we can get hive numbers built back up. Have picked up 2 swarms this spring, that is about 1/5th the number we usually pickup
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Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 11:30pm
tom,sorry to hear that,40 hives that's a bunch of pollinators and a lot of honey.hope and pray you get things back and running.have only caught 3 swarms this year,they are doing great.took 2 nucs to my grandson in san Antonio,they are doing great.....
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Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2017 at 11:49pm
Too much rain here. Washing the nectar and pollen out. Not making as much honey as they should. Tracy
------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids!
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Posted By: nella(Pa)
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2017 at 12:48am
HD6GTOM wrote:
Not good, lost around 40 hives in Feb. Pollen in the hive was tested and it shows residue from BT corn. Bees collect the pollen in the fall, when the queen starts laying in Feb they start to use this poisen pollen. As a result the whole hive dies. Thanks Monsanto. |
I also loose hives of bees, where can you get this testing done and how much dose it cost?
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Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2017 at 5:27am
haven't been a beekeeper yet, but I do try and keep an eye out for honey bee's. not seeing many honey bee's around again this year.....but fortunately there is a lot of wasp/hornets around
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Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2017 at 7:52am
Tracy Martin TN wrote:
Too much rain here. Washing the nectar and pollen out. Not making as much honey as they should. Tracy | Tracy, are your bee keeper buddies coming up to Glen Ullin again this year. .? You could send some of that extra rain up with them. Darrel
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Posted By: AC6080MAINE
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2017 at 7:58am
I lost my two hives over this past winter to Varroa mites even though i treated with the quick strips. I was only treating in the fall. I split a few of my dads hives this spring and it looks like they are doing okay but i need to get back in them and check to make sure they are queen right and have brood.
I will be treating for mites now both spring and fall. My uncle lost about 300 hives over the winter. He would go to a site and either they would all be dead or all be alive. I think he was having nosema issues.
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Posted By: ocharry
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2017 at 12:10pm
i built a couple of top bar hives last spring,,,hoping i could intise some bees to live here ,,,have lots of them in the flowering trees in the spring,,i plant flowers every spring but nobody wants to live in my new condoes,,,,i even use attractant to lure them,,,so far nuthing,,,i look for swarms too,,,poop
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Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2017 at 12:20pm
State universitys can do it for you. Don't know the cost. Been cleaning out everything with pollen in it and setting it aside to burn it. Gonna put some honey supers on tonight, hope I find some good news.
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Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2017 at 8:46pm
darrel in ND wrote:
Tracy Martin TN wrote:
Too much rain here. Washing the nectar and pollen out. Not making as much honey as they should. Tracy | Tracy, are your bee keeper buddies coming up to Glen Ullin again this year. .? You could send some of that extra rain up with them. Darrel |
Darrel, I think they will go to Wisconsin this year. I don't think they really liked the trip that far north. They loved the country, just that long of trip is hard on bees. Tracy
------------- No greater gift than healthy grandkids!
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Posted By: bryani289swmi
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2017 at 8:00pm
We went 7 of 9 for hives making it through this past winter and are currently at 15 hives in SW Michigan. We just extracted 30 gallons of honey and have a good amount still on the hives. Things have been dry here the last several weeks and have slowed the nectar flow. Thanks.
Bryan
------------- Sticks and stones may break my bones but hollowpoints explode on impact.
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Posted By: Mark(MO)
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 10:43am
Bt causes bee death?
http://entomology.umd.edu/uploads/4/4/1/3/44130801/bee_nto_paper.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://entomology.umd.edu/uploads/4/4/1/3/44130801/bee_nto_paper.pdf
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Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 7:19pm
mark,have you researched the sweet corn problem in your area?i planted 4 rows of sweet corn and about 1/2 acre of sun flowers for my bees.they have not really visited either one of the plants.the bees are working like crazy,coming to the hives with large amounts of pollen.i gues they found something they like better.them little hummers are no dummies.how are your bees doing this year?the wet weather down here has been a real deterant this year.....
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 7:59pm
J.W. and folks, I was a bee keeper, I now have empty boxes of dead bees. The three colonies did not make it this spring. Seemed like the extremely warm weather in Feb. was not good for them. At almost $200 per nuc its getting to be a pricey hobby. I will still look for a swarm but those seem to have dried up around here also. Neighbor called about bees in a broken tree. I checked and there was only a hand full of bees and most of the comb was gone. Good luck guys! Regards, Chris
------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 9:32pm
sugarmaker,haven't been many swarms here in east texas this year,the 3 I caught are doing really well.many of the keepers around here have not had many swarm calls.dont know what it is.....
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Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 24 Jun 2017 at 9:35pm
sugarmaker,how many brood supers do you leave for overwinter?i like to leave 3 if possible.i think it is good for the next year.....
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2017 at 8:58am
J.W., I get greedy and only leave one super on after our fall goldenrod crop is removed. That's pretty typical in our area. Two of the three hives still had honey left and they died. Regards, Chris
------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Posted By: alleyyooper
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 7:28am
USDA bee lab Beltsville Md If you have a question on why your bees have died and it isn't winter starvation send a sample and find out for sure. My experience they will not tell you what strain of Noesma killed them but did find out it was Noesma and had a starting point for treatment. Treat spring and fall.
Go to this link to get all the instructions on how to send samples and how to package them. The correct address is there also. Most samples will fit in the free USPS small casset flat rate box and takes 2 to 3 days. Check with them to send samples of comb and or honey, pollen.
http://www.ars.usda.gov/Services/docs.htm?docid=7472" rel="nofollow - - This is a free service to all Americans & I think Canadian Bee Keepers.
Our USA tax moneys at work really  Al
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Posted By: alleyyooper
Date Posted: 27 Jun 2017 at 7:33am
Isn't hard to figure out why there is a lack of swarms when bee populations are in such deep kaka. I figure if I get a call for a swarm these days there is a lax bee keeper near by. Yes the cost of restocking empty boxes has gotten out of hand, amazes me so many do not want to treat for mites or Nosema Creana to protect their investment. About like walking across a fresh worked up wheat field and throwing out hands full of seed way I see it.  Al
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Posted By: bryani289swmi
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 7:11pm
We did a little extracting tonight, we needed some empty frames for a couple splits we did. Ended up with 5-6 gallons. I'll try to get some pictures next time we are set up to extract. Thanks
Bryan
------------- Sticks and stones may break my bones but hollowpoints explode on impact.
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Posted By: alleyyooper
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 7:53pm
72 frames ready to spin out the honey in our extractor. http://s3.photobucket.com/user/twotracker/media/beekeeping%20pictures/smallintheextractor.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> uncapping a frame for the extractor. http://s3.photobucket.com/user/twotracker/media/beekeeping%20pictures/smallhoneyframehalfuncapped.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> A tub of caps makes some really bright yellow wax. http://s3.photobucket.com/user/twotracker/media/beekeeping%20pictures/morecappsintank.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">  Al
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Posted By: j.w.freck
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 8:48pm
alleyooper,that is a fine looking crop.the frames shown are really all filled out good and a really fine color,keep up the good work.....
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Posted By: Sugarmaker
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2017 at 9:00pm
That is a hugh extractor Al. I got a call for bees in a limb that broke off a large maple. The tree was blocking a secondary road. I put some equipment in the truck and drove 10 min to the bees. It was a mess. I tried to remove some comb. All I got was comb that had honey in it. I never got deep enough in the tree to get any brood. So i doubt if the bees will move into the box I left there with some of there honey inside. Will check on them tomorrow. A big loader came in and pushed the tree off the roadway. I got stung through the suit about 20 times. They were not happy! Part of the game of bees! Regards, Chris
------------- D17 1958 (NFE), WD45 1954 (NFE), WD 1952 (NFE), WD 1950 (WFE), Allis F-40 forklift, Allis CA, Allis D14, Ford Jubilee, Many IH Cub Cadets, 32 Ford Dump, 65 Comet.
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Posted By: steelwheelAcjim
Date Posted: 29 Jun 2017 at 10:14am
Had some move into a Graham Bradley tractor.

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