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Topic: Johnson grass
Posted By: acd21man
Subject: Johnson grass
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2017 at 6:26pm
I have some really nice orchard grass. I mean it is pretty but it has got a lot of Johnson grass we have had a lot of rain the last weeks and it really took off but I mowed it last night. Sooo.
I have a wick bar that I have never used that I can go in and hopefully kill it.
If I could spray it Is there anything that will kill the jg and not kill my grass

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Posted By: Dnoym N. S. Can.
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2017 at 7:35pm
https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/plant-problems/weeds/controlling-johnson-grass.htm

Recommended Johnson Grass Herbicides Successful Johnson grass control may include the use of Johnson grass herbicide. Post emergence products as “fluazifop (Fusilade II), sethoxydim (Vantage), clethodim (Envoy), and imazapic (Plateau)” may be effective in outlying areas of the property. Glyphosate (Roundup) may work as Johnson grass control near the lawn, but can damage surrounding turf.

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Controlling Johnson Grass – How To Kill Johnson Grass Printer Friendly Version Image by Don O'Brien By Becca Badgett (Co-author of How to Grow an EMERGENCY Garden) Johnson grass (Sorghum halepense) has plagued farmers since its introduction as a forage crop. This invasive and noxious weed has gotten so out of control that many states require landowners to kill Johnson grass. If you are a landowner bothered by a troublesome invasion of the perennial weed, you probably just want to get rid of Johnson grass. How to Get Rid of Johnson Grass As with most invasive weeds and grasses, using multiple strategies usually works best for Johnson grass control. This means that you may use a Johnson grass herbicide program along with other kinds of Johnson grass control methods. This is fitting, as Johnson grass reproduces and invades crop areas in two ways, spreading both by seed and rhizomes to overtake farmland and other areas of your property. The rhizomes of Johnson grass are identified by thick cream-colored rhizomes, covered with orange scales. Herbicides alone are usually not enough to be an effective Johnson grass killer. When combined with cultural practices that prevent the spread of rhizomes and seeds, a Johnson grass herbicide program, with repeated applications, may provide enough Johnson grass control to eliminate it. Tilling the soil in fall following the harvest and followed with an herbicide is a good start to kill Johnson grass. Rhizomes and seed heads brought to the surface by tilling may be destroyed in this manner. The seeds of Johnson grass that are missed during the applications can remain viable for as long as 10 years so it is best to prevent the seeds from being spread in the first place. Take steps to prevent the spread of seeds and rhizomes to areas that are not infested. Digging clumps of Johnson grass in the yard or small garden is a start. Dispose of the clumps where they cannot reseed or spread. It is best to do this before the grass goes to seed, to further prevent the spread of the seeds. When Johnson grass grows near the lawn, keep the turf thick and healthy to discourage the invasion of Johnson grass. Take a soil test and apply recommended amendments to keep the grass growing. Reseed thin areas of the lawn and mow at the proper height for your variety of grass to keep it healthy and competitive against the Johnson grass. Recommended Johnson Grass Herbicides Successful Johnson grass control may include the use of Johnson grass herbicide. Post emergence products as “fluazifop (Fusilade II), sethoxydim (Vantage), clethodim (Envoy), and imazapic (Plateau)” may be effective in outlying areas of the property. Glyphosate (Roundup) may work as Johnson grass control near the lawn, but can damage surrounding turf.


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Posted By: Craig/insoh
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2017 at 10:13pm
Is this in a lawn or hayfield?


Posted By: acd21man
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2017 at 10:57pm
It's a hay field I have 70 acres of orchard grass and it's really good quality and it's all clean but this field. I have one field and it is about 15 acres and I'd say 3 acres is Johnson grass in clumps all across the field

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Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2017 at 11:00pm
I would like to know also. I have a similar problem with it here. Thanks Tracy

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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2017 at 2:37am
Nothing wrong with Johnson Grass for hay probably as much or more feed value than
the Orchard Grass.I know when I turn the cows or goats in a new field the Johnson
Grass in one of the first things they eat.


Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2017 at 4:38am
Originally posted by Gary Burnett Gary Burnett wrote:

Nothing wrong with Johnson Grass for hay probably as much or more feed value than
the Orchard Grass.I know when I turn the cows or goats in a new field the Johnson
Grass in one of the first things they eat.


bottom part of our hay field was almost always wet, we were able to bale it a few times and it was mostly johnson grass, tall thik johnson grass!!!  the goats and cows loved it. 


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Posted By: Trinity45
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2017 at 6:52am
Most people around my parts will not buy hay if they think it has Johnson grass in it.  They are afraid the seeds will get spread around.  It has become an invasive plant that most people want to get rid of.


Posted By: acd21man
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2017 at 8:00am
It's illegal in tn to sow Johnson grass in less it has changed in the last few years.
It's hard to sell square hay and half a bale be Johnson grass lol.
I guess I'm just going to take a wick bar to it and hopefully kill it.

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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2017 at 8:00am
Originally posted by Trinity45 Trinity45 wrote:

Most people around my parts will not buy hay if they think it has Johnson grass in it.  They are afraid the seeds will get spread around.  It has become an invasive plant that most people want to get rid of.


Cut it before it heads,a good stand of Johnson Grass will make about 2X the forage as other grasses in a growing season.It'll grow good in dry weather and on marginal land.
If you want to get rid of it just graze it the cows will wipe it out,never give it a chance to reseed.


Posted By: Craig/insoh
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2017 at 12:25pm
Johnson grass is actually around 20+% protein if you don't sell the hay but feed it there is no need to kill it just cut it and bale it before it makes seed head if you cut it often enough it will starve the roots out and eventually get rid of it!


Posted By: Clay
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2017 at 10:34pm
A lady representing the Speidel Weed Wiper system told me that a 4% solution of Round Up would kill Johnsongrass down to the roots.
A higher dosage would only burn the top and not kill the roots.




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