Fires along the Highways,,,,
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Topic: Fires along the Highways,,,,
Posted By: desertjoe
Subject: Fires along the Highways,,,,
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 7:13am
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According to the newspaper,,,southern NM is facing yet another dry summer with strong winds,,,,That right there makes me start worring bout them DANG "mysterious fires" along the highways. Every year there is lots of property losses due to these fires along highways. Our place is just east of a major N/S highway,,,and the prevailing winds are from the SW,,,,!!! 2 Years ago,,we had a very close call but was fortunate in that I was outside in garage and I smelled something burning and fire dept was able to get it out before it got going real good. The fire got to within 20 feet of our Son's house next door,,,,, I been thinkin bout makin a "ripper" sort of drag, using railroad spikes to pull behind the D14. The D14 doesn't have a PTO or lift arms and am wonderin whether that would even work out,,?? I also tried to use the bucket in reverse but with my bad back,,,that didn't work worth a chit,,,,,, Gosh dang,,if I could just talk ole Shameless into deliverin the Chevy Allis down here,,I could get her runnin in a heart beat and have something to pull this drag,,I'm thinkin on,,,,, I'd like to see some pics of what others have made for something like this,,,, |
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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 8:03am
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Would this be something you would do every dry season or just do it when you had a fire? Remember that guy out in California that used his swimming pool and gas powered pumps with sprinklers and was able to save his home when all the others around him burned to the ground. He was prepared, for sure. ------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC 1968 one-seventy 1956 F40 Ferguson |
Posted By: Randy MN
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 8:32am
I am a wildland firefighter in MN and was thinking maybe it would be a good idea to do a prescribed burn around the home place. But even more fun might be using a tandem disc to build a fire break around the place. Good luck in your dry season.  ------------- 34 WC #477, 38 B #1935, 1-116 on steel, #8 7ft dbl action disc, #9 5ft dbl action disc, 295 Chainsaw |
Posted By: Scott B
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 8:41am
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Our Farm and house borders public property on 3 sides. Just had a guy start fires in two separate places and they both were burning toward the house. Fortunately my nephew was down there and was able to get the authorities out right quick. I've built a fire break with a plow in the past...guess it's time to start doing it again! I like that drag idea but you'd need to be there and be ready. ------------- D17 Series 1 Allis B- 1939 Allis B- 1945 |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 8:54am
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Hey Stan. This is something i want to do befre much longer. Right noW.. There is some dr.y weedS from last yer And they would burn like crazy unless they is drug down or disc.ed in. I don.t feel sfe with a perscribed burn cause i aint got enough water hoses for control. Iwas thinkin on a "ripper drag" to rip up the top 2-3 inches....? Maybe a disc like ole says is what i need as thoe don.t require PTO or lift arms...???? |
Posted By: AJ
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 10:26am
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Need to get Shameless to turn his snow machine on for you all. ------------- Can't fix stupid |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 7:42pm
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Joe if you get a disc I would try or 8 feet 10 max that tractor isn't going to like anything too wide. What happens once you open the ground up will you end up living in the middle of a dust storm as the wind blows across the open ground? I am just thinking out loud I know I have to keep my ground covered all the time because the river floods it and my fields will wash away if I break then open at the wrong time don't know what the risks are where you are. But on second thought the right idea is to buy another tractor for the job. You always need a backup tractor anyway... |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 8:19pm
 Bring or send a truck to Illinois, and I can load this on for ya. Don't need no PTO or lift arms ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: HaroldOmaha
Date Posted: 18 May 2017 at 10:53pm
| I always though a Serviss IH terrace plow would work great fighting fires, because it throws the dirt 30' and would smother a fire. |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 19 May 2017 at 12:08am
| Joe...show us a pic of your "fire" danger area |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 19 May 2017 at 12:18am
| when I worked at the horse ranch, they made a steel triangle harrow with 7 inch steel rods welded about 8 inches apart. used it to harrow up the arenas with it. pulled it with a garden tractor, was about 3 ft wide and pulled at one of the points. |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 19 May 2017 at 3:35am
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Well,,Good Buddy,,,thas kinda what I was thinkin bout building me one of. I got some 4" pipe that I thought to weld some railroad spikes onto bout every 6" and make it bout 10' wide. with 2 rows of spikes oughta do it,,?? I may of not explained myself too good,,,,what I had in mind is not to use this "IF" a fire was goin on,,,, but to drag the dead weeds down and keep any new ones from gettin too big,,,I figured bout a 20' wide swath inside the fence should keep a fire from jumpin,,,,?? Last year I was cuttin the weeds on the OUTSIDE of fence and to the edge of highway,,,and a guy from State Highway Dept stopped and told me I was breakin the law,,!!!! WHA,,,,???? I told him I was just tryin to protect my property and he said that stretch was state property and I was endangerin my life by bein there due to traffic goin 70 MPH,,,,,, I "politely" asked when THEY were goin to cut em and he says thet stretch was not on their schedule just yet,,,,,thas my guv'ment for you,,,!!! |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 19 May 2017 at 3:46am
Hey,,,maybe thas a better idea on a triangle built one,,,I was thinkin on two pieces of 4" pipe spaced bout 4' apart ,,, with the RR spikes welded where the back set would catch what the front spikes missed,,,??? When I first started thinkin on this I built a jury rigged drag from an old 10' chain link gate and wired two RR ties on it and kept addin weight on it but it never did much to diggin up any weeds just kinda drug over the weeds,,,,, |
shameless dude wrote:Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 19 May 2017 at 5:23am
| I splained to you ona PM how to do it you silly boy! |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 19 May 2017 at 5:38am
Yeah,,I know it Shameless,,,but last time I looked,,,them sons of bit,,,,UMmmmm,,,, they want real money!!!!,,,,,,maybe I can tell em their favorite customer from the Blair, Nebraska store sent me to get some of the Super Duper stuff to just try it out and I'll buy it if it works,,,yeah,,,thas what I'll do,,,,, WAIT A MINute,,,,,,with the wife in the hospital so long,,,I ain't got a chance to go have coffee n donuts with Ms Big Ones,,,,maybe I can try thet on her,,,,you think,,,???? Ya gots any railroad spikes you ain't using,,,????  |
Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 19 May 2017 at 6:25am
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'somewhere' I read the 'firebreak' should be 3 x the tallest trees that are on fire IF it's not real windy..then all numbers are out the door cause the embers will travel a long ways away. problem with grass is either it burns or you get dust in the house..can't win. I like the pool/pump idea...also a steel roof is a must if you're in a 'wildfire zone'. ------------- 3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 19 May 2017 at 8:39am
| Joe....if we gits caught with RR spikes here, we go to jail! |
Posted By: JimD
Date Posted: 19 May 2017 at 10:05am
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Not sure of your terrain there, but I've fought fires in a pasture that 20' wouldn't do it. On the other hand as a firefighter, I would sure appreciate the 20' break to stop most of it. Prescribed burn is always the best. Here in Oklahoma, the forestry service will come and tell you how to do it, and sometimes help. ------------- Owner of http://www.OKtractor.com" rel="nofollow - OKtractor.com PM for an instant response on parts. Open M-F 9-6 Central. We have new and used parts. 877-378-6543 |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 19 May 2017 at 7:13pm
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X2 on the prescribed burn. And any fire break helps out even if it doesn't completely stop the fire. Georgia Forestry will come out and advise and help on a prescribed burn. If you are friends with the local volunteer fire department they might come out and do a burn as part of their training. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: Dan73
Date Posted: 19 May 2017 at 7:29pm
Man I would be in alot of trouble the old drag harrow I have was made with them about 100 years ago. I was thinking I should go recycle a few replacement spikes so I could use it.... lol |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 20 May 2017 at 1:17pm
| Joe....if it ain't there....it can't burn |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 20 May 2017 at 9:28pm
Well,,,well,,,,,,,thas exactly why I'm wantin to drag em down,,,,,thata way,,,,they won't be there,,,don'cha see,,,????,,,once them weeds is drug down and gone,,,them rocks won't burn,,,,,, Don't make me have to draw a picture,,,,,  |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 20 May 2017 at 10:08pm
| i'm abouts ready to BI*CH slap you! i'll take yer picture and stuff it up yer left nostril! LOL yer starting to become a city bot! when I look at your place, it looks like about all sand (super mini rocks) and if you don't let anything grow in that, then it won't burn! if something is already there now, kill it, let it dry and throw a cigar or a cig that I ain't smoking out there and let it go as much as it can before the fire dept puts it out! or have them come burn it for practice! now...if'n you just are using this as an excuse to buy another AC tractor...then carry on and let it grow and disreguard most of this last post! LOL |
Posted By: desertjoe
Date Posted: 21 May 2017 at 12:35am
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"".if'n you just are using this as an excuse to buy another AC tractor...then carry on and let it grow and disreguard most of this last post! L""" SHHHhhhhhhTttttt,,,don't you be sayin thet too dang loud,,,!!! see,,,I had my sob story all laid out,,and I had her believin it hook, line and stinker,,,Ya see,,,right now,,I'm in bad need of another,,,,UMmm,,"something",,,now NOT necessarily another tractor,,,, but "something" to help with any possible wildfires to the homestead,,,yeah,,,that right there should oughta catch her attention,,,,, |
Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 21 May 2017 at 2:24am
| you could pour a concrete fence between you and the road! |