D17 IV powet adjust wheel ADJUSTMENT ?
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Topic: D17 IV powet adjust wheel ADJUSTMENT ?
Posted By: Macon Rounds
Subject: D17 IV powet adjust wheel ADJUSTMENT ?
Date Posted: 12 May 2017 at 11:32pm
How do you get the wheel to center so as not to wobble?
No therorys here please.....
Looking for been there done that info "THAT WORKS"
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Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 12 May 2017 at 11:33pm
Tightening the 1 1/4 nuts evenly is sound advice but doesnt work in practice. Most often the locks end up in different positions on each of the four rail. My question is how do you get them spaced evenly on the rails ?
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Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 12 May 2017 at 11:38pm
The old style with eccentrics would only let a small EQUAL space between each locking mechanism and rail. Therefore always calibrated for adjustment/moving wheel in in out.
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Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 12 May 2017 at 11:42pm
The new wedge style is great for getting loose for adjustment but try to get equal spacing (looseess) for cemetrical movement on the rails has eluded me.
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Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 12 May 2017 at 11:48pm
When the tractor weight is on the wheel and 1 1/4 nuts are backed off just enough to let the wheel move on the rails. The wedge shape of the lock will let the wheel centerter settle to the bottom. Which causes an out of center situation.
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Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 12 May 2017 at 11:53pm
I have tried counting threads and keeping turns loosened equal but still my frustrations prevail.
Sorry for this conversation with self thread. Just trying to get all the info out there in order.
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Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 7:24am
Don't ever remember having a centering issue in the rim. I've had the issue of not getting the wedges evenly positioned. To fix that all I did was remove the wedges and cleaned off all the dirt and rust so that the tapered surfaces which slid in and out where smooth. Did the same to the rim as well. Now all the wedges can be adjusted the same.
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Posted By: Stan R
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 7:30am
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Possible theory: Maybe the tire is not "centered" on the rim? Doesn't take much for such a large tire to be noticed, but either way, should not be a problem from an operational perspective.
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Posted By: bradley6874
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 7:37am
Tried several tries I gave up found the easiest way was to 1 move the slides to the new location 2 jack the tractor up off the ground 3 put a block on ground next to the tire 4 ratate tire to find the furthest point out 5 start snuging the high spot 6 repeat repeat repeat untill its completely tight and true not hard to do just takes time a n paitence
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Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 7:57am
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Macon You gotta jack it up and use 2 blocks, one beside the wheel and 1 in front or behind the wheel. when you get it straight with the block beside the wheel, bolts snugged up, you can then spin the wheel and see how you are on the up and down movement. adjust accordingly. If someone has cranked those rims down hard, out of adjustment or out of round you will have a heck of a time getting them true. I have spent hours straightening up wheels because people would remove the tire and rim from the tractor and "fix" their own tires, then horsed them down out of round and sprung the rims. Good Luck.
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Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 8:08pm
Thanks for all the feedback.
I will give those ideas a try. For getting wheel streight.
These wedge type locks are better for keeping the wheel tight and I never hear the klonking sound that sometimes happens on the old eccentric type. However as someone said these can be tightened so tight that it will bow the rim or stress the wheel center and it will crack. Which I have seen several times.
I have not found the service info on how to adjust the wheel or the proper TORQUE value of the 1 1/4 wedge nuts. I always just use German torque. Good-n-Tight
Anyone know the service torque of the wedge nuts ?
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Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 8:43pm
It seems like if the wheel center is adjusted to have wheel all the way wide or all the way narrow the locks are much harder to torque down. I assume because the wheel and rails are much stiffer toward the edge compared to middle area of rim. In any case I believe the locks should lay flat after torqued.
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Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 9:32pm
After I've cleaned the wedges and wheel center I can pull them in about all the way with little effort. Haven't noticed any ill effects.
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Dennis
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Posted By: Macon Rounds
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 11:35pm
I am glad to hear that i am not the only one that has had frustrations getting these style straight.
You fellas always have wisdom and experience that is helpful.
THANKS
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Posted By: KJCHRIS
Date Posted: 14 May 2017 at 8:53am
My 180 Op Man says torque to 160 - 175 foot pounds.
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