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Topic: Neat Harvest Video
Posted By: CrestonM
Subject: Neat Harvest Video
Date Posted: 06 May 2017 at 12:49pm
From the 40's. There are 4 Gleaner pull types, an Allis WC, a Farmall, Moline, and another. Pretty neat I thought. The variety of tractors reminds me (As does Lonnie's thread about the Model T tractor) that farmers then weren't too partial to equipment brands, they just used what was available and worked for them. (But Gleaner always ruled the plains here)  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jclmWAg6iHg" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jclmWAg6iHg



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Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 06 May 2017 at 1:12pm
Little hard to see in spots but neat video. Our ancestors worked hard. Things have changed so much over the years.


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 06 May 2017 at 7:49pm
Neat. What were they pulling at the end


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 06 May 2017 at 7:54pm
One-way discs. The primary way to plow up wheat stubble here on the plains in the 40s-70s. 


Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 06 May 2017 at 8:00pm
Oh was hard to see


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 06 May 2017 at 9:34pm
there's one of those combines sitting ina campground on the west side of  Dodge City KS, still in great condition


Posted By: Randy_Larson
Date Posted: 06 May 2017 at 9:46pm
Wow, how equipment and technology has changed. Thank you for letting us look at history!

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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 06 May 2017 at 11:52pm
Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

there's one of those combines sitting ina campground on the west side of  Dodge City KS, still in great condition
A relative of mine still has the one my great-grandpa and his 2 brothers bought together. It's in rough shape, after sitting out its whole life, but one day I want to get ahold of it and fix it up! It was a gravity dump bin like the ones in the video, but they retro-fitted it with an unloading auger! Not sure if that was an aftermarket accessory, or something they conjured up, but it's neat, nonetheless! 


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 3:27pm
when we motorhome'ing to CA one year, after going thru the desert (we went the southern routes) we stopped at Yuma AZ to get a motel for a good shower and air conditioning. while outside doing a smoke, another fella was out there doing the same. he noticed my NE plates and asked the normal questions when people meet the first time. on his side, he also farmed in CA (don't remember the name of the town), but they did specialty farming of small grains and grass seed, and other different specialty crops. he showed me pics he had of their harvest machines doing grass seed at the time. all I saw was a LONG line of AC 60/66 combines harvesting. when I asked him, he said they were still the best machines for that type of work and he said they had 30 combines they used. looked king of funny with cabbed tractors prolly with the a/c on pulling the older combines!   this wasn't a very long time ago.


Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 4:00pm
First Creston,  Thanks for sharing.  Great pictures of a bygone era.  
Shameless, You know the 60 type combines were absolutely the best and almost only for crops like clover seed.  In fact we were pleased to demonstrate in our local clover seed farms.  Other makes tried - in fact they almost rebuilt another unit to "adapt" it for clover seed - but no one could do what the 60 did.
From what you say it looks like they - even in the 21st Century - they do not have a substitute.
Good Luck!
Bill Long


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 4:31pm
Originally posted by Bill Long Bill Long wrote:

First Creston,  Thanks for sharing.  Great pictures of a bygone era.  
Shameless, You know the 60 type combines were absolutely the best and almost only for crops like clover seed.  In fact we were pleased to demonstrate in our local clover seed farms.  Other makes tried - in fact they almost rebuilt another unit to "adapt" it for clover seed - but no one could do what the 60 did.
From what you say it looks like they - even in the 21st Century - they do not have a substitute.
Good Luck!
Bill Long

Do you remember what "other" color of machine it was they have to adapt to run the clover?

I always thought it would be neat if someone could reproduce an All-Crop with rubber bars. I know for a big farm like Shameless said a 60/66 might be too small, but what if someone made either a large pull type (maybe 14' header) or a larger self-propelled that was larger and had more power and capacity than a SP-100, but still had the same key features? Wide cylinder, rubber bars, sawtooth wind valves in the air blast throat, etc. 
I know it could be done, but I don't know if you'd have enough buyers to justify all the production costs. 


Posted By: Rayhowling
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 5:40pm
Back about 10 years ago I went through British Columbia and went down through Idaho to my Daughter and family in Boise Idaho. In the Coeur d'Alene area we stopped at a farm garage sale and they had been a wheat farmer most of his life. He had a John Deere pull type combine from the early 1940's with an Alis Chalmers engine to run the combine. It had good canvases in the grain head which was about 18 feet wide. He couldn't find anybody to buy the combine and he said it would end up in the scrape yard. It was in good shape and it didn't have straw walkers, instead it had a chain on each side with 1 inch wooden cross pieces with about 1/2 inch between them and the chain went over oblong gears to shake the grain out of the straw.


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 5:56pm
Originally posted by Rayhowling Rayhowling wrote:

Back about 10 years ago I went through British Columbia and went down through Idaho to my Daughter and family in Boise Idaho. In the Coeur d'Alene area we stopped at a farm garage sale and they had been a wheat farmer most of his life. He had a John Deere pull type combine from the early 1940's with an Alis Chalmers engine to run the combine. It had good canvases in the grain head which was about 18 feet wide. He couldn't find anybody to buy the combine and he said it would end up in the scrape yard. It was in good shape and it didn't have straw walkers, instead it had a chain on each side with 1 inch wooden cross pieces with about 1/2 inch between them and the chain went over oblong gears to shake the grain out of the straw.
Awesome! Don't see too many raddle combines like that. Too bad it was going to be scrapped. 
We don't have many "big" pull types like that down here....12' and 14' Gleaners are about the biggest.  


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 6:55pm
Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

looked king of funny with cabbed tractors prolly with the a/c on pulling the older combines!   this wasn't a very long time ago.

These guys had it figured out too! Lol! But they probably got heat stroke in that cab in the summer instead of having nice A/C



Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 10:24pm
Originally posted by Rayhowling Rayhowling wrote:

Back about 10 years ago I went through British Columbia and went down through Idaho to my Daughter and family in Boise Idaho. In the Coeur d'Alene area we stopped at a farm garage sale and they had been a wheat farmer most of his life. He had a John Deere pull type combine from the early 1940's with an Alis Chalmers engine to run the combine. It had good canvases in the grain head which was about 18 feet wide. He couldn't find anybody to buy the combine and he said it would end up in the scrape yard. It was in good shape and it didn't have straw walkers, instead it had a chain on each side with 1 inch wooden cross pieces with about 1/2 inch between them and the chain went over oblong gears to shake the grain out of the straw.

Very likly a JD 36,which goes back to Holt of crawler tractor fame. Holt build combines from 1880's until 1935 when they sold the combine busness to JD. Holt and Best joined to become Caterpillar in 1925. Shortly after building the first Caterpillar 36 combine. JD sold that same model until the 1950's.


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 10:50pm
Creston....I know it would be DANGED hot inside that MM cab if that gal was in there with! LOL ....that guy I was talking to in YUma said there were other combines they could buy or use, but then they would have to buy a lot of support equipment to go with them such as extra cleaning machines and such. and then hire more people to run them. he said with the low costs of the Allis combines, and the good job they did, it was far more less expensive to harvest with them even taking a smaller swath, it was still faster and cheaper.  


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 11:17pm
Originally posted by shameless dude shameless dude wrote:

Creston....I know it would be DANGED hot inside that MM cab if that gal was in there with! LOL ....that guy I was talking to in YUma said there were other combines they could buy or use, but then they would have to buy a lot of support equipment to go with them such as extra cleaning machines and such. and then hire more people to run them. he said with the low costs of the Allis combines, and the good job they did, it was far more less expensive to harvest with them even taking a smaller swath, it was still faster and cheaper.  
Awesome! 


Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 07 May 2017 at 11:40pm
I wonder why they dumped the wheat on the ground, perhaps didn't want to wait in line at the elevator or all the bins were full and no train cars available.  It's cool watching those "old" trucks when they were brand new, can hear in my mind the gear whine of that Ford taking off.
I spent many an hour as a kid pulling a oneway around the field with a MM U back in the 1960's.


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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 08 May 2017 at 12:32am
Not sure why they were dumping it all, John. Seems my great-aunt said her dad and his brothers used to do that on occasion when she was a little girl. 
But....in 1957 there was so much wheat in the area that the elevator quickly filled and the only choice they had was to pile it alongside the railroad tracks, then scoop and auger it into the train cars as quickly as they could. Grandma has some photos of it in one of her albums. It's a sight to see! 
The weird thing was, a USDA surveyor had been out there just a year before and deemed that particular region of SW OK to be a "barren wasteland" not suited for grain production. Ha! 



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