190 XT Steering troubles
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Topic: 190 XT Steering troubles
Posted By: hgh1979
Subject: 190 XT Steering troubles
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 8:19am
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We have a 190xt with some steering trouble. We had replaced the hydraulic pump with a reman because it wasn't putting out good pressure, the lift arms would not come up. The tractor was steering ok at that time( it was harder to steer due to the low pressure). Once we put the new hyd pump on the steering wouldn't work. Our thought was that the old steering valve couldn't handle the increased pressure of the new pump. We got a replacement steering valve and are getting the same result. When you try to steer it feels like the steering wheel is fighting against you. We're pretty confident all the lines are hooked up as they were. Has anyone ran into this? Any ideas on a fix?
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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 7:59pm
I had to bleed mine due to opening the system. Have someone turn the wheel to full lock while cracking the hydraulic hose at the steering ram. A few times is all it took to straighten mine out. However I was not having the fighting against itself issue. Mine was more not turning immediately while turning the wheel and making noises.
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1968 B-208, 1976 720 (2 of them)Danco brush hog, single bottom plow,52" snow thrower, belly mower,rear tine tiller, rear blade, front blade, 57"sickle bar,1983 917 hydro, 1968 7hp sno-bee, 1968 190XTD
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Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 8:33pm
AC720Man is correct. I had to turn the wheel several times to get the air out. I did jack the front wheels off the ground with the loader to make it easier and did not loosen any lines.
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1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A
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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 9:46pm
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Does all hydraulics work ok now? Will PD pull the tractor? Will lift arms raise? Sounds like pump is not primed. You said you replaced steering valve. What are you calling steering valve? MACK
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Posted By: hgh1979
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 9:59pm
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Yes all the other hydraulics work and the tractor pulls fine in both ranges. the assembly at the end of the steering shaft is what I'm calling the steering valve. It has 4 hydraulic lines connected to it with a splined shaft that the shaft from the steering wheel connects to.
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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 10:17pm
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You have two hoses switched. MACK
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 6:59am
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I have seen one repairman (the Customer) switch the two steel lines on the rear of the pump. I never thought anyone could do that, but I assure you it has been done.
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Posted By: hgh1979
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 8:13am
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Thanks guys, I appreciate the advice. I'll start troubleshooting further. Mack do you know if there are any diadrams or schematics that show which lines go where on that valve body for the steering?
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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2017 at 9:18pm
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I'm sure the service manual shows how they go. Will be same for 170-220 if you have access to another manual. MACK
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Posted By: Joe(TX)
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 9:29am
I checked my manual for the 190 and there is not much showing how to connect the lines up. I did look at the actual tractor.
The inlet from the cooler connect on the bottom left side of the tractor.
The outlet connects to the upper left.
The cylinder hoses connect to the right side of the valve. I forgot to check which was which.
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1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A
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Posted By: hgh1979
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 10:38am
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Awesome! Thank you checking into it.
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Posted By: MACK
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2017 at 10:52pm
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I'm sure both cylinder hoses are on right, but not sure which is which on left. I'm sure Joe is right.
MACK
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