Will a F & H 161 Weight Fit My WC?
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Topic: Will a F & H 161 Weight Fit My WC?
Posted By: AC7040
Subject: Will a F & H 161 Weight Fit My WC?
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2017 at 1:16pm
 Needing some help. Auction coming up some F&H 161 weights and I'm curious if they will fit the rims on my WC (in the photo). I've read some past topics that for the spoke rims the F&H 161 is the 'inner' weight and the 162 is the 'outer' weight. I believe the 2 holes on the rim are 18 inches apart. So not sure how they would work with these rims. Installed some brand new FireStones' without fluid and she's a little light in the rear end for plowing  Thanks!------------- 1953-WD45, 1949-G, 1950s Snap-Coupler All-Crop Drill, 1956 Roto-Baler, 1945 All Crop 60, Snap Coupler Subsoiler, Plow, Gleaner F, 505 wagon |
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Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2017 at 1:20pm
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Yes, the 161 is the inner or starter weight and the 162 is the outer or add on weights for the spoked and stamped wheels. The 161 is not used on the casted centers. ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2017 at 6:37pm
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Just fill the rears up with windshield washer fluid and be done with it!
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: AC7040
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 7:33am
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Thanks for info DennisA! Never thought of that CTucker! Wonder how many gallons I would need or if I could buy it in bulk hummm.... ------------- 1953-WD45, 1949-G, 1950s Snap-Coupler All-Crop Drill, 1956 Roto-Baler, 1945 All Crop 60, Snap Coupler Subsoiler, Plow, Gleaner F, 505 wagon |
Posted By: cpg
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 7:40am
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Here is a chart that shows about how many gallons fit in given tire sizes by rim guard. You will have to find out what washer fluid weighs per gallon to see how to weight compares to rim guard. http://www.rimguard.biz/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Hydro-Flation-tables-2014-PDF.pdf" rel="nofollow - Gallon Tables |
Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 9:56am
 ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
CTuckerNWIL wrote:Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 11:04am
Calcium chloride took 50 years to rot out a rim. The windshield washer fluid will NEVER rot a rim  ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 11:09am
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Personally I like weights costs a lot less to have the tires changed when there is no fluid plus the wheels are a whole lot easier to handle. |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 11:33am
| I'm starting to go back to wanting fluid. I spent about $400 for 3 sets of weights for my WD45 + paint and bolts. Even with 3 sets I don't have quite as much weight as fluid would make. If you're light plowing, only adding 250 lbs won't be like night and day. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 12:20pm
| Center to center measures 14.5 inches on F&H weights. I have them on my WD45 and Dad's 185. |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 12:28pm
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I put calcium in all rear tractor tires. I have never had a leaking tube or valve stem. Just do simple maintenance of replacing the core once every two years. I also try to add wheel weights as well. I like my AC's but they all have more power than traction. Per Allis Chalmers, operators are to add weight until a maximum of 5% slippage is obtained. Allis also stated that adding weight should start with adding fluid first as fluid didn't add as much wear to the mechanics of the tractor. ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: DennisA (IL)
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 1:15pm
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I have a 7045 with 20.8-38" tires. Each tire will hold more than 1500 pounds of calcium. To equal this amount of weight with wheel weights I would need to add over ten per side. That is just not practical. Calcium is around 14 pounds per gallon and washer fluid will be around 8 pounds per gallon. Not telling you what you should do just giving you a few things to think about. If you plan on using the tractor for pulling plows etc. you need weight. ------------- Thanks & God Bless Dennis |
Posted By: AC7040
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 1:26pm
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Thank you all for the help! I was able to pull a 2 bottom 'little genius' this past year pretty decent in regards to slippage. I think having brand new tires really helped. I used to have fluid in my WD45 rims and they started to eat out so I was kinda against fluid in all rims and looking towards going with weights instead. I guess I'll add a couple weights and see once how it goes, may at the end of the day have to install fluid. ------------- 1953-WD45, 1949-G, 1950s Snap-Coupler All-Crop Drill, 1956 Roto-Baler, 1945 All Crop 60, Snap Coupler Subsoiler, Plow, Gleaner F, 505 wagon |
Posted By: DougS
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 1:33pm
Though if you go to any tractor tire manufacturer's web page they all poo poo fluid. They all want weights used and used to proportion the weight to a certain ratio. Something like 65/35 back to front. I don't remember the exact ratio. |