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G valve adjustment and associated frustrations

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Topic: G valve adjustment and associated frustrations
Posted By: AnnArborAllis
Subject: G valve adjustment and associated frustrations
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2017 at 1:41pm
I'm 47, so hardly an "old guy", but was feeling a little old this week. I'm bringing my grandfather's G back up to snuff and decided to adjust the valves while I had the carb off. I'm glad I did as there was a stuck valve. I now have a new valve kit installed, adjusted, and the engine back together. Now my frustration.... you would not believe how hard it has been to find a valve spring compression tool and tappet wrenches. Of all the places I checked, Sears had the valve spring tool. I had to get tappet wrenches at Grainger. Over a week to find everything! I realized how few people know how to adjust non-hydraulic valves these days (or actually do it). While working on it, I called my 9 year old over to explain how the engine worked and what I was doing and he was interested. So, I guess the message is to make sure we all pass on the knowledge and that there is incredible value in a good tool set.



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Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2017 at 2:12pm
had an 8n with a bad valve, wasn't sure if maybe it burned a valve or not so, I went into an auto parts store to get grinding compound, spring compressor, etc.  just in case. they looked at me like I had 3 heads.AngryAngry  borrowed a compressor from a friend.  found out it was just a stuck valve, by then I was so ticked off I forgot about compressing the valve spring, pulled the retaining clip and the valve shot out of the block and bounced off the metal roof on the garage....LOL glad I wasn't looking right over the valve.

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Just cause it's orange don't make it a tractor, there's only one..Allis Chalmers


Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 10:19am
I got most of my hands on smarts with ATV and motorcycle engines so the jump to tractors was the same just more of them to adjust. There are still quite a few modern street bikes that require adjustment out there including mine and remember that any project is an opportunity to acquire more tools.

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1968 one-seventy

1956 F40 Ferguson


Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 12:02pm
Originally posted by dt1050 dt1050 wrote:

had an 8n with a bad valve, wasn't sure if maybe it burned a valve or not so, I went into an auto parts store to get grinding compound, spring compressor, etc.  just in case. they looked at me like I had 3 heads.AngryAngry  borrowed a compressor from a friend.  found out it was just a stuck valve, by then I was so ticked off I forgot about compressing the valve spring, pulled the retaining clip and the valve shot out of the block and bounced off the metal roof on the garage....LOL glad I wasn't looking right over the valve.
Lol!! 
Those valves are pretty unique, in the way they come out as a complete unit. Never seen another engine with them that way. 
You must've pulled pretty hard on that valve keeper to get past all the pressure of that spring! A buddy made a tool for me that I put in the exhaust and intake ports to depress on the guide to release the pressure to get the keeper out.  


Posted By: Bob-Maine
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 12:26pm
AnnArbor, I restored my G a few years ago. Took to block to a machinist to hot tank it and install new valves. Got it back less than clean so I finished the cleaning myself. Thought I'd check the valve clearances and found that they had not been adjusted. Not having tappet wrenches, I ground some Chinese wrenches thin and used them. I really hate to pay someone to do something they didn't do. Will never use him again. Bob@allisdowneast
   

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Posted By: Dusty MI
Date Posted: 11 Mar 2017 at 5:40pm
Talking about the G and valves, I'll a some what related question.
A few short years ago I took the engine to my G in had had the valves ground. The compression varied.
Now the compression is good but I have a knock when not under load. Should I worry?

Thanks 
Dusty


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Posted By: dt1050
Date Posted: 12 Mar 2017 at 6:31am
by the time I ran all over to the place getting parts I was rather Angry at that I tend to apply a bit more force to things.  I found that a pair of fencing plyers work great for pulling the retaining clip. of course that's when ya don't have the spring compressor in there....lol

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Just cause it's orange don't make it a tractor, there's only one..Allis Chalmers



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