Different Size Chain on an All-Crop
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Topic: Different Size Chain on an All-Crop
Posted By: CrestonM
Subject: Different Size Chain on an All-Crop
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 6:04pm
Ok...this is another one of those dumb questions, but...what all sizes of chain are used on an All-Crop 60A? I know you're just supposed to read the number stamped on the links, but my chains are all so old and worn, that I can't find numbers anywhere. I think the grain drag, reel drive, and elevator chains are the same (key word think), but I know the unloading auger drive chain is a good bit smaller. If anyone knows the numbers or has access to them, I'd appreciate it! Granddad's combine is going to need a new chain on the rear slip clutch and on the bottom of the clean grain elevator soon I think. The sprockets aren't too worn, and the chains are adjusted as tight as they'll go, but sometimes a chain will get thrown. That happens, then I just slide it back on and keep cutting. I tried taking a link out, but then it's way too short and won't fit on both sprockets. Some have suggested getting a new chain, so I might try that if I can get the numbers. Thanks!
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Posted By: Ryan Renko
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 7:16pm
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After shopping the local farm stores like Rural King, Farm & Home, and Tractor Supply I ended up ordering the flat ladder chains needed for our 66 from Shoups. I don't have the numbers off the top of my head but can get them tomorrow. Sizes are different. Ryan
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Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 8:23pm
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We have rolls of chain laying in shop if you come up with what size you need.
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Posted By: WD45Diesel57
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 9:52pm
Just bought a roll of chain the stuff used in the elevator, drive chain for reel and rattle chain is #55
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Posted By: shameless (ne)
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2017 at 12:37am
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keep them oiled Creston and they won't come off
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2017 at 12:47am
shameless (ne) wrote:
keep them oiled Creston and they won't come off
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I oil them religiously. I didn't experience any difficulties when we cut 10 acres of wheat, but they started throwing when we cut 3 acres of Milo.
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Posted By: shameless (ne)
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2017 at 1:23am
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the milo stocks might be taking them off
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2017 at 10:48am
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That's what I began to think.
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Posted By: combinechris
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2017 at 1:51pm
35 and 55 detachable link chains.
------------- 35 combines and 15 forage harvesters. mostly allis combines and equipment.WTB 2 row cornhead for a 90
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2017 at 2:11pm
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 11:02pm
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Ok, so I've looked online and I can find #55, but no #35. I'm not sure which is which....I would think the bigger chain that drives the reel, clean grain and tailings elevator, grain drag, and slip clutch would be #55 (bigger # = bigger chain?) and the smaller size chain that drives the unloading auger on the 60As would be #35 (smaller # = smaller chain?), but I can't even find #35. I can dind 25, 32, 33, and 42, but no 35. Any comments appreciated. Tell me if I'm right on this or not. Thanks!
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Posted By: combinechris
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 11:13pm
# 32 Creston
------------- 35 combines and 15 forage harvesters. mostly allis combines and equipment.WTB 2 row cornhead for a 90
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 11:17pm
Posted By: shameless (ne)
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2017 at 8:36am
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on one of my no-till planters sometimes a stalk would take the chains off, I made some BIG washers that went on the inside and outside of the sprockets and they kept the chains on the sprockets. cheap and easy.
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2017 at 9:20am
shameless (ne) wrote:
on one of my no-till planters sometimes a stalk would take the chains off, I made some BIG washers that went on the inside and outside of the sprockets and they kept the chains on the sprockets. cheap and easy.
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You know, I've thought about that. Just never found anything big enough! I might take some old circular saw blades and cut them down.
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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2017 at 1:27pm
The printed Shoup catalog shows detailed dimensions of detachable chain and accessories. And has it to sell.
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2017 at 2:37pm
If the chain is too long the way it is and not long enough to take a link out, just shorten the chain a bit. When I worked in the "chain" factory we had to match lengths of chain for spreader aprons all the time. A small anvil with a radius on top and a hammer is all you need. Lay the barrel of each link in the radius and smack the top where the split is for detaching. Just make sure it will still swivel after you hit it and go to the next one.If it won't swivel enough, use a cold chisel to open the split back up a bit and don't hit the next one so hard 
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Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2017 at 3:00pm
CTuckerNWIL wrote:
If the chain is too long the way it is and not long enough to take a link out, just shorten the chain a bit. When I worked in the "chain" factory we had to match lengths of chain for spreader aprons all the time. A small anvil with a radius on top and a hammer is all you need. Lay the barrel of each link in the radius and smack the top where the split is for detaching. Just make sure it will still swivel after you hit it and go to the next one.If it won't swivel enough, use a cold chisel to open the split back up a bit and don't hit the next one so hard 
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Hm....that does make sense. Just "crimp" all of them a bit and it will shorten the chain. Wonder why I didn't think of that!
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