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Topic: h3 gas engine?
Posted By: troy31
Subject: h3 gas engine?
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2017 at 8:32pm
Anyone know we're to get a rebuild kit for a h3 gas crawler for a.good.price or were to get a complete motor to go in a h3 used or new.that's in good shape.. iv heard they have same.motor.as a d15 farm tractor but is it.a 149 or a 160 in the crawler



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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2017 at 8:40pm
Both were used. Early models had the 149, later models had the 160.  If it has an oil bath air cleaner, chances are it's a 149.  The model and serial number is stamped on a flat surface close to the exhaust manifold near the back of the engine.


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Posted By: Eric B
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2017 at 2:10pm
Overhaul kits are easy to get from dealers on this site and elsewhere too.

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Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal!


Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2017 at 3:11pm
If it is a 160 cid, hold on to your wallet! HTH Tracy


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Posted By: troy31
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 9:37am
My only numbers on the block is 3-2987-r. Least it looks like a 3 at the beganing


Posted By: nevans
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 2:59pm
we have one that was overhauled nephew was going to put it in a b for pulling its a 160 will take 1750 Niel


Posted By: Eric B
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2017 at 5:40pm
Originally posted by troy31 troy31 wrote:

My only numbers on the block is 3-2987-r. Least it looks like a 3 at the beganing

I'm not disputing your findings but sometimes you have to wire brush and/or use a sandpaper in order to get all the digits showing...


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Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal!


Posted By: troy31
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2017 at 6:41pm
I cleaned it off good and that's the numbers...also noticed there is no fuel pump or place.for.one..so this is a.tractor motor, but can someone tell me what kind so I can get a rebuild kit


Posted By: Eric B
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2017 at 7:35pm
Originally posted by troy31 troy31 wrote:

I cleaned it off good and that's the numbers...also noticed there is no fuel pump or place.for.one..so this is a.tractor motor, but can someone tell me what kind so I can get a rebuild kit

If those are all the digits you have, you will likely have to pull the head to get the cubic inch or else ordering parts would be a leap in the dark. I have two D14's with the same looking block as you have and the row of digits start with "149" and a group of five numbers plus R at the end which has to do with compression ratio apparently. It's maybe more likely that you have a 149, however, you're really lucky if you have a 160...more sought after but way more for parts cost.




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Currently- WD,WC,3WF's,2 D14's B. Previously- I 600,TL745,200,FL9,FR12,H3,816 LBH. Earth has no sorrow that Heaven cannot heal!


Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2017 at 9:39am
Originally posted by troy31 troy31 wrote:

My only numbers on the block is 3-2987-r. Least it looks like a 3 at the beganing


Probably 3 since it is a H3 with the serial.

Could be looking at a 5 possibly which could have a 1 in front of it.



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Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2017 at 2:07pm
I checked the dealers parts book and H-3's serial # 6959 and lower had the 149 engine.
Serial 6959 and higher had the 160 engine. Serial number on the left side of the torque tube where the engine bolts to the torque tube.


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Posted By: troy31
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2017 at 2:12am
This number is right on the block, same side as carb, toward the back...I'd show a photo but it won't let me upload from my phone, the engine ain't orginal cuz it does not have a fuel pump


Posted By: Kipn
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 6:57am
Due to serial number, its a 149. It probabaly has an H in front of the 3, if it came out of a dozer.

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Posted By: pinball
Date Posted: 13 May 2017 at 12:21pm
Are you sure there is not a fuel pump. Never seen a gas motor with out one originally. Could it be the fuel pump went bad and removed and a plate put over it and they just used the pressure from the fuel tank. Just curious I guess.  norm



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