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Topic: AC 7000 series High Crops
Posted By: JasonB
Subject: AC 7000 series High Crops
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 12:17pm

Seeing as I have spare broken 1/16th scale AC 7030 MB open station, I was contemplating making it into a High Crop 7000 series in 1/16th. My question is: Were all the High crop 7000 series all Black Belly's? Or were there any that were Maroon Belly's?






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Posted By: grinder220
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 12:32pm
Good question, all I've ever seen where black bellys.


Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 12:38pm
all black bellies,  we were the field project manager, just a title, for the HC unit ,  kept logs on the prototypes in S. LA and beakdowns etc.   Felix Patterson was the sales manager   for the mid and south region and watched the project closely.  They wanted to take some cost out of the unit by downsizing the final drive drop housing.  Felix was my boss and Ernie Kritzberg was the chassis engineer trying to cut costs.   Felix instructed me to "make sure that don't happen, if it doesn't look bigger than deeres and IH we can't sell it".   We took the inner tires off - put on duals as wide as possible, hooked a 15' ripper to it,,,, and kind of failed the rh final drive unit, major... Ernie came down - we had the unit apart and had put the wheel back on the inside to hide the reason for failure - he scratched his head and kept saying - we tortured these at the proving ground and never broke a thing... I guess we will just have to go with it as is, we can't cut, but we can't make it any stronger and sell it... the dealer Bill Satterwhite , my partner in crime, and I never said a word.  Later I met with Felix and said "hey boss, you know what we did---" and he threw up his hand and said I know nothing and you will tell me nothing.... :-)  just a 'war story'. no charge.


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Posted By: Richardmo
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 12:48pm
What models were produce for the 7000 series?
I have the 7020 and 7060 high crops.
Have had 3 7045 through the years.
Did they make any other 7000 series into high crops?




Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 1:08pm
all 7000 series with the 6 speed power shift were offered as HC.

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Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 1:15pm
Thanks for the great information! I am a learning a lot about AC tractors I never knew about. In regard's to the high crop 7000 series, were most sold with the 4 post ROPS and Canopy or "Half cab" or were more of them sold with an enclosed cab?
I have heard of the 7020, 7045, and 7060 High Crop, although I have never seen pictures of a 7080 High Crop.    


Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 1:45pm
great story tbran


Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 4:15pm
no 7080, since all HC were power-shift.

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Posted By: WD45Diesel57
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 5:07pm
I'd love to own a 7020 high crop to go along with my regular 7020. Hey Jason I'm not far from you, I'm one of the McBride clan lol. I'm curious to see the high crop when you get it built!!

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Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 5:30pm
Originally posted by WD45Diesel57 WD45Diesel57 wrote:

I'd love to own a 7020 high crop to go along with my regular 7020. Hey Jason I'm not far from you, I'm one of the McBride clan lol. I'm curious to see the high crop when you get it built!!


Not sure when I will start on a High Crop 1/16th 7000 series Allis, but we will see. Want to make or have a 1/16th 7000 Maroon Belly customized with the 4 Post ROPS and canopy at some point as well. A 190XT High Crop in 1/16th is something else I have been thinking about as well.

Jason


Posted By: Joshkc
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 9:04pm
What do you know on the 8000 series? A buddy of mine has an 8030 HC don't know what production was on them
Thanks Josh

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Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 5:25am
Id be interested to know about the 8000 series Hi- crops as well! Weren't they limited to just the 8030 and 8050 as Hi-Crops, and excluded the 8010 and 8070? Maybe wrong on that though. Really need to sit down and read Norm Swinford's books fully sometime.



Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 8:14am
Originally posted by JasonB JasonB wrote:

Originally posted by WD45Diesel57 WD45Diesel57 wrote:

I'd love to own a 7020 high crop to go along with my regular 7020. Hey Jason I'm not far from you, I'm one of the McBride clan lol. I'm curious to see the high crop when you get it built!!


Not sure when I will start on a High Crop 1/16th 7000 series Allis, but we will see. Want to make or have a 1/16th 7000 Maroon Belly customized with the 4 Post ROPS and canopy at some point as well. A 190XT High Crop in 1/16th is something else I have been thinking about as well.

Jason

Just an FYI, a 7000 tractor would not be correct with the 4 post rops, those used a 2 post. The 4 post was only on 7010 and up. 


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Posted By: Dale-OH
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 8:16am
As far as I know 8000 were only in 8030 and 8050.  We have 2 rough 8030 HC


Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 11:43am
Originally posted by injpumpEd injpumpEd wrote:


Originally posted by JasonB JasonB wrote:

Originally posted by WD45Diesel57 WD45Diesel57 wrote:

I'd love to own a 7020 high crop to go along with my regular 7020. Hey Jason I'm not far from you, I'm one of the McBride clan lol. I'm curious to see the high crop when you get it built!!


Not sure when I will start on a High Crop 1/16th 7000 series Allis, but we will see. Want to make or have a 1/16th 7000 Maroon Belly customized with the 4 Post ROPS and canopy at some point as well. A 190XT High Crop in 1/16th is something else I have been thinking about as well.

Jason


Just an FYI, a 7000 tractor would not be correct with the 4 post rops, those used a 2 post. The 4 post was only on 7010 and up. 


Ok Thanks! I saw on EBAY before Christmas a 7000 MB custom with 4 POST ROPS and Canopy, glad I passed on buying it if was not correct. Still will have to figure out something to make a Maroon Belly 7000 in 1/16th. Anyone have a picture of the 2 POST ROPS set up vs. the 4 Post ROPS set on a AC 7000 series?

Jason


Posted By: JP (nwOH)
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 7:04am
I have a high crop 8010


Posted By: Armand(AZ)
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 7:44am
I've built a model of the 7045 and 8050 HC's.

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Posted By: JasonB
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 3:34pm
Originally posted by Armand(AZ) Armand(AZ) wrote:

I've built a model of the 7045 and 8050 HC's.

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Armand, Those are beautiful models! Well done, obviously a lot of time and effort went into those High crops. Love them both! Wish Spec Cast/ERTL and the Orange Spectacular show would team up and offer a High Crop Allis of some sort in 1/16th, other then another D19 high crop that's been done.




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