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Topic: Allis Chalmers 701 Wagon Gear
Posted By: leeave96
Subject: Allis Chalmers 701 Wagon Gear
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 12:03pm
Going to pick-up a wagon running gear in the next week or so - it is an Allis Chalmers 701.

The wagon gear has a broken spindle on the rear.  It is broken between the two races at either end of the spindle, a clean break.  I'm a little suspect in fixing what I think would be hardened steel - to some extent via V-grooving and welding.

My question is - where can one buy a replacement spindle?  I looked for a part number on AGCO's website as I thought (???) they were the keeper of the Allis Chalmers tractor parts after the buy out from Deutz-Allis.  Funny thing is - they list Agco and Agco-Allis - not Allis Chalmers, which kind of surprised me.  Do you don't go to Agco if you need a part for a WD45?

Anyhow - thoughts on a weld repair on this broken spindle?  Any source recommendations for a replacement spindle?

Any info is much appreciated.

Thanks!!!!!!!!
Bill



Replies:
Posted By: mruhlig77
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 1:46pm
Be patient and try to find a used match....these spindles fit many things...remember that this was probably was  built by Electric Wheel.....I do not have a spare in that size...I had to fix a New Holland wagon a few years ago.. the heavy duty one was over 300....


Posted By: Dave in il
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 1:54pm
Google Shoup Mfg. they sell replacement spindles, hubs and complete assemblies in their catalog.

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Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 2:01pm
Depending on how good your welding is, they can be welded. It was not unusual at all that when a over the road trailer came in with a burned bearing and ruined spindle, we would call an outfit out of St. Louis to come out and put a new spindle. Just the stub. I don't remember the number of the rod he used, but we never had one come back. A good welding supply shop could probably help on this. Anyway, it can be made to hold.


Posted By: Dale-OH
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2017 at 3:06pm
For Future use when looking for Allis Chalmers Parts look under Agco-Allis, that was where all Deutz and AC parts will be found


Posted By: ac-mike
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 7:40am
DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME WELDING. THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN GET IT BACK GUN BARREL STRAIGHT. IF IT IS OFF THE SLIGHTIST YOUR BEARINGS WILL SOON FAIL. IT IS VERY SIMPLE TO TAKE THE REAR OF THE WAGON TO A MACHINE SHOP TO MAKE A REPLACEMENT, REMOVE BROKEN STUB AND WELD IN NEW AXLE. IF DONE CORRECTLY NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO NOTICE AND WILL BE GOOD AS NEW. YOU COULD ALSO LOOK TO SUPPLIERS OF HUBS AND AXLES BECAUSE THERE IS USUALLY REPLACEMENTS AVAILABLE IF YOU CAN COMPARE THE MEASUREMENTS OF YOUR AXLE TO A REPLACEMENT.I HAVE REPAIRED MANY TRYING DIFFERENT METHODS AND THIS IS THE ONE THAT WORKS.


Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2017 at 6:59pm
Like the other earlier posts, Shoups should have what you need. If not, then try EZ-Trail Inc's parts dept. Here's they're website link. I think your AC 701 has either a 1-5/8" or 1-3/4" spindle??
https://e-ztrail.com/parts.php?category=12" rel="nofollow - https://e-ztrail.com/parts.php?category=12


Posted By: LeonR2013
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 5:31am
Mike I see you're adamant about this, but I have to respectfully disagree. It all depends how careful he is. He was asking if it could be done and was just commenting it could be done. However, that being said, your suggestion is the best way.


Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 7:34am
Originally posted by leeave96 leeave96 wrote:

Going to pick-up a wagon running gear in the next week or so - it is an Allis Chalmers 701.

The wagon gear has a broken spindle on the rear.  It is broken between the two races at either end of the spindle, a clean break.  I'm a little suspect in fixing what I think would be hardened steel - to some extent via V-grooving and welding.

My question is - where can one buy a replacement spindle?  I looked for a part number on AGCO's website as I thought (???) they were the keeper of the Allis Chalmers tractor parts after the buy out from Deutz-Allis.  Funny thing is - they list Agco and Agco-Allis - not Allis Chalmers, which kind of surprised me.  Do you don't go to Agco if you need a part for a WD45?

Anyhow - thoughts on a weld repair on this broken spindle?  Any source recommendations for a replacement spindle?

Any info is much appreciated.

Thanks!!!!!!!!
Bill


If possible, please post a picture of the snapped spindle. Thanks



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