Did A/C make a 7000 "Special" black belly????
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Topic: Did A/C make a 7000 "Special" black belly????
Posted By: hillmonkey
Subject: Did A/C make a 7000 "Special" black belly????
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 8:42pm
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https://springfield.craigslist.org/grd/5929058971.html This 7000 black belly says "special"under the 7000 on the hood decal,has anyone seen that before? Could have been added by the PO but looks kinda official. click on the C/L pics to enlarge. |
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Posted By: grinder220
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 9:01pm
| Yeah I've seen them. |
Posted By: KY poorboy
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 10:08pm
| Yes. We've got one. |
Posted By: CrestonM
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 10:09pm
| So....what's special about it? |
Posted By: hillmonkey
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 10:11pm
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Yeah, where are the special parts located? |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 30 Dec 2016 at 11:48pm
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8 bolt front hubs and heavy front end. ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |
Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 6:42am
Maybe they rode the SHORT truck from the factory!  ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
CrestonM wrote:Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 8:14am
| Whoever has it don't check their email, dam I hate that been looking for something like this |
Posted By: John D
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 9:17am
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A neighbor had one, like they said just the heavier front end if I recall correctly. ------------- 1964 D17 series 3 |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 9:36am
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I'm kinda thinking all the specials were black chassis. I've never seen a maroon special anyway. From what I've been told, the heavy front axle like the 7030 uses is about it. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: hillmonkey
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 10:34am
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http://www.ironsearch.com/Tractor/Allis-Chalmers/7000/2736036/Images.aspx?SK=TR-AC Here is a old ad that was never taken down. 8 lug front w/o the "special" under the decal. either owner installed or "7000 only" decals were added one point. One also sold on C/L in ND a few weeks ago with 8 lug front and long axles but the ad is gone now and I did not notice the "special" so not sure on that one. Thanks for the response everyone. also both above 7000s were/are black belly |
Posted By: HD6GTOM
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 11:29am
| Would 1 of hose fit under a 200? |
Posted By: Acdiesel
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 4:46pm
------------- D19 Diesel,D17 Diesel SER.3 2-D14, 2-D15 SER.II WF/NF D15 SER.2 DIESEL D12 SER.I, D10 Ser.II 2-720'S D21 Ser. II Gmc,caterpillar I'm a pharmacist (farm assist) with a PHD (post hole digger) |
Posted By: Lynn Marshall
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 6:04pm
| I don't think that a heavy duty 7000 series front end could be fit onto a 200 very easily. However, I have seen a 210-220 style on a 190. |
Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 31 Dec 2016 at 7:01pm
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In May 1978 the black belly 7000 went into production modified with the corporate Colors and acoustical cab to which were already installed in the larger 7020-7080 tractors in 1977. The cabin included the new console which eliminated the gear lever on the floor other changes included Stadium lights electrically controlled outside mirrors luxury seat and other minor improvements. The most significant change was a power shift. The clutching function previously handled by dry engine clutch was now controlled by the lower range (underdrive) hydraulic clutch in the power shift. Inching or loading starting all occurred in the underdrive for safety and longer clutch life. The dry engine clutch was replaced by a torque limiter which reduced power-train shock loads. There was no gear ratio or Speed changes. It's 301 cubic inch 649T 6 cylinder 4.9 liter turbocharged power plant was basically unchanged and the PTO horsepower remained at 106.44. The tractor was not retested. Even with all these changes and improvements the 7000 still lack many features found on the larger tractors which limited its Acceptance in the market place. The black belly 7000 remained in production a short 13 months from May 1978 through June 1979. It was replaced with a more modern 7010 which was originally planned for this horsepower slot in 1972. |
Posted By: Nathan (SD)
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 12:43am
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My dad bought one of the last 7000's. It was delivered on june 12 1980. It had all the best features, heavy front, 38 in rears, deluxe cab, but it had no "special" decal. |
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2017 at 6:25pm
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I can't be sure on the dates, but the special tractors were a batch run the company built with the same specs and reduced the price somewhat. The late 7000's had the option of the hd front axle whether it was a special or not. Somewhere in the cobwebs of the memory it seems that out of the Columbus, Ohio branch
Ed Swingle (later the only AC guy who co-founded Agco after the AC demise) may have had something to do with this as to a special dealer order and discount run of units. The elimination of the dry clutch was a major price reduction of the 7000. A lot of the savings were blown due to a field campaign to fix the tranny brake. A properly set wet clutch 7000 operated well, especially after the oil warmed up. In the frozen north yankee land it was a different story.. the drag on the wet clutch made the tranny hard to get out of gear even if the brake let one shift into gear. The tractor with the wet clutch did make it into a great hay baling tractor as the elimination of the release brg and clutch pressure was easier on the left leg and pocket book as clutch failures about went away.
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